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I don't understand why senate Republicans are still so angry. The bill has already been stripped of most anything that will terribly inconvenience their overlords in the insurance industry.
Kind of a funny situation here.
As you state, the Senate Republicans are going ballistic over the plan. Yet, if you read the more established liberal blogs out there they are just as angry, and threatening a revolt.
A moment of sanity with a calm evaluation of the comprehensive proposal from the Senate would be appreciated, at least by me.
As you state, the Senate Republicans are going ballistic over the plan. Yet, if you read the more established liberal blogs out there they are just as angry, and threatening a revolt.
A moment of sanity with a calm evaluation of the comprehensive proposal from the Senate would be appreciated, at least by me.
This seems the most bizarre thing to me. The politicians are completely ingnoring the wishes of constituents to move this legislation forward.
As you state, the Senate Republicans are going ballistic over the plan. Yet, if you read the more established liberal blogs out there they are just as angry, and threatening a revolt.
A moment of sanity with a calm evaluation of the comprehensive proposal from the Senate would be appreciated, at least by me.
Really. I think we're all starting to believe our own propaganda and spin. Nobody including the senators have even read the whole thing; only the parts that gore their particular ox. The whole reform has turned into partisan political theater. I just haven't made up my mind wether iit's a comedy or a tragedy
As you state, the Senate Republicans are going ballistic over the plan. Yet, if you read the more established liberal blogs out there they are just as angry, and threatening a revolt.
A moment of sanity with a calm evaluation of the comprehensive proposal from the Senate would be appreciated, at least by me.
At least you have to give those of us to the left of the left credit. Our support modifies as the bill modifies. I refuse to vocally support such claptrap no matter who it's proposed by, even if it's failure would hurt the administration. The word from Senate republicans seems to be to stop healthcare reform no matter what, not "stop the public option" or "stop federal funding of abortion", even though they use these to make it appear that their votes can be won over.
And the Dems who are saying that we should support healthcare reform "like, you know, just 'cause" are about as spineless.
Congress is full of corruption and whoremongering politicians. Fire them all.
If sunlight is the great sanitizer why is Reid insisting on a 1am vote? Can't he stand the sunlight?
Why push responsible people who are self-insured out of their plans and forcing them into the government "pool" of acceptable options? Why threaten these previously self-insured folks with a $15K fine or up to a year in jail if they refuse to comply???
I am preparing for the possibility of my government forcing me to into jail (after they outlaw my Health Savings Account and current insurance) where, ironically, they will also be forced to provide for my medical care.
It doesn't have to make sense; it is the government.
I personally am not a constitutional scholar, but I look forward to what will no doubt be a court challenge to the Federal Government forcing citizens to buy health insurance. Someone, somewhere will make a case out of this, i'm confident.
There will likely be a court challenge that will not succeed. What's the difference between being forced to buy government pensions (Social Security) and government health insurance? If one is constitutional the other will be found constitutional on the same grounds. By the way, I oppose government health care.
The insurance companies are dancing in the street. Their reps...on both sides of the aisle...are cashing the big bonus checks they got from the insurance companies. And we, the people, are once again the losers. Our Corporate government (because that is what is really is) has allowed our jobs to be shipped to countries where the last dollar can be squeezed out for the richest of the rich and left working people destitute. Now they have found a way to punish them for not having a job that provides health insurance and taxes them in their poverty. I am so fed up with both democrats and republicans that I have lost hope that we can ever survive them.
Why push responsible people who are self-insured out of their plans and forcing them into the government "pool" of acceptable options? Why threaten these previously self-insured folks with a $15K fine or up to a year in jail if they refuse to comply???
I am preparing for the possibility of my government forcing me to into jail (after they outlaw my Health Savings Account and current insurance) where, ironically, they will also be forced to provide for my medical care.
I have a hard time understanding your post. If you're self-insured, you're carrying the full risk on your own - viable if you have a few hundred thousands in reasonably liquid assets, I suppose - but then you start talking about "your current insurance". If you're paying premiums to an insurance company, you're not self-insured. Could it be you're confusing privately insured with self-insured? Because if you're privately insured, you're perfectly good under the suggested legislation.
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