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Old 12-20-2009, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Remember, this disastrous decade saw two of them: First, the news media's failure to look critically at the Bush administration's rationale for the Iraq War; and then, the business press's failure to understand the depth of the subprime mortgage problem and to anticipate its massive consequences.
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:00 AM
 
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Well really what he's saying is that we should have MORE conservatives in newsrooms to carefully scrutinize BO so WAPO will be better prepared to break a story when it happens. If the same were to be true for the idea that more conservatives in the newsrooms would have reported EVEN LESS than was reported with the Iraq war build up and sub-prime crisis. Poor title and poor article for what he's actually trying to say.
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:33 AM
 
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Conservative media? Surely you jest...

Right wing might apply, authoritarian might apply, even neoconservative would better apply than conservative media.

Conservative media today consist of little more than The American Conservative magazine, 20% of the National Review, and maybe a few places like Lew Rockwell, but thats about it. If you think FOX and like outlets are conservative, you are sadly mistaken.
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:36 AM
 
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Also nowhere in the article does it say that conservatives outnumber liberals in the media. Just another inflamitory and blatently false headline from Mr. Jitsu.
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:42 AM
 
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Thread title changed to reflect a question instead of a statement supported by the posted article.
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:45 AM
 
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Thread title changed to reflect a question instead of a statement supported by the posted article.
Which statement supports that question?
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:50 AM
 
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Which statement supports that question?
A question doesn't need support, being its a question.
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Old 12-20-2009, 11:07 AM
 
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A question doesn't need support, being its a question.
You know what you're right, sorry. I just figured that the question would somehow be related in some way the article that was linked, which in no way states anything that would lead to the question asked.
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Old 12-20-2009, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Remember, this disastrous decade saw two of them: First, the news media's failure to look critically at the Bush administration's rationale for the Iraq War; and then, the business press's failure to understand the depth of the subprime mortgage problem and to anticipate its massive consequences.

Source: Newsrooms Don't Need More Conservatives
You're trying to twist this article into something it's not about.....did you actually read it and understand it? You quoted that one paragraph but, you neglected to quote what followed it.....here's what you left out:

Would the solution currently on the table—hiring more Republicans and fewer Democrats—have helped the press behave differently in either situation? It's possible, of course, given the right Republicans.

But it is far more likely that it wouldn't have helped at all. To begin with, it would have been unrealistic to expect the press to scrutinize the Bush administration's claims about Iraq more vigorously had it agreed with the administration more. Even bias theorists understand that's not the way it's supposed to work.

And in the case of the subprime lending industry and its relationship to Wall Street, the public would probably have been better served by a perspective that regarded, say, predatory lending with suspicion instead of one that insisted on putting the phrase in quotation marks.

Which is another way of saying that the problem, in each of these massive failures, wasn't really ideological at all. The people who got it right, in both cases, were the ones willing to hold power accountable, to directly challenge the conventional wisdom.

I'm starting to wonder if Joe is actually Dukester....he's doing the same style of posting.
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Old 12-20-2009, 11:17 AM
 
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You know what you're right, sorry. I just figured that the question would somehow be related in some way the article that was linked, which in no way states anything that would lead to the question asked.
I read the article and came to the same conclusion you did. I didn't see any mention of where conservative media was now larger than liberal media but at the same time, the OP may not have even read the article and made an assumption based upon the title of the article. One thing I am not is a mind reader but I try to give folks the benefit of the doubt.

In any event it was a decent article and while I protest the use of the term conservative to generically refer to anyone on the right, I would personally like to see more traditional conservative views in mainstream media as opposed to just FOX's brand of conservative. Of course I wouldn't mind seeing traditional liberal views expressed more in the mainstream outlets because I suspect if MSNBC were to run programming like LINK TV, many here would be too shocked to speak.
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