U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 12-23-2009, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
44,924 posts, read 28,123,641 times
Reputation: 4269

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
This is what I see happening:
-taxes start next year
-people with insurance get their premiums raised
-medical services/drugs/treatments all get prices raised
-people without insurance are still without insurance for a few years

Now..2012 comes along and bam..Obama is NOT reelected.
-Healthcare subsidy bill gets repealed

Government has collected their taxes
Big pharma and other healthcare corporations get their revenue
People with insurance are now paying higher prices because they NEVER lower prices
People without insurance ARE STILL WITHOUT INSURANCE

Does anyone else see this picture as well ?
That is a very possible scenario in my thinking. Of course, I am not one of THEM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 12-23-2009, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
44,924 posts, read 28,123,641 times
Reputation: 4269
Quote:
Originally Posted by Artisan10 View Post
I think this is what the OP was referring to:

http://sessions.senate.gov/public/in...2-994c27a457c4
I thought the OP referred to what Ehlmendorf said on Fox this morning, and still do.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-23-2009, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
44,924 posts, read 28,123,641 times
Reputation: 4269
Quote:
Originally Posted by wjtwet View Post
Show me some stories of these children dying becasue they did not have inusurance
Every child in the US under the age of 19 has insurance and this bill won't add one thing in that line. At least 1/3 of the people who will have to take out insurance under this thing don't have it because they don't want it and would rather drive nice cars, have nice apartments, etc.

There just are no uninsured children in the country.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-23-2009, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
44,924 posts, read 28,123,641 times
Reputation: 4269
Quote:
Originally Posted by cobolt View Post
I don't think this bill can be repealed. Nor do I think it will. Isn't it written in such a way that it can't be undone?
It will be the legacy of Dirty Reid for the very reason you mention.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-23-2009, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
44,924 posts, read 28,123,641 times
Reputation: 4269
Quote:
Originally Posted by wjtwet View Post
saw the story on CNN so dotn go to the fox hate and is not news
I also saw it this morning but expect just what you expect.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-23-2009, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Central Maine
4,687 posts, read 5,520,537 times
Reputation: 4966
Quote:
Originally Posted by roysoldboy View Post
Every child in the US under the age of 19 has insurance .....

There just are no uninsured children in the country.
That's simply not true - it's not true now, and unfortunately it won't be true with the health care reform legislation that is likely to be passed.

CDC Newsroom Press Release July 1, 2009
An estimated 43.8 million Americans had no health insurance in 2008, approximately 2.8 million more than in 1997, according to new data from CDCís National Center for Health Statistics.

The report also includes data on children under the age of 18 and shows that the percentage of children with no health insurance was 8.9 percent in 2008, the same as in 2007, but down significantly from 13.9 percent in 1997.
Hospitalized Children Without Insurance Are More Likely to Die, a Study Finds - Prescriptions Blog - NYTimes.com
Uninsured children who wind up in the hospital are much more likely to die than children covered by either private or government insurance plans, according to one of the first studies to assess the impact of insurance coverage on hospitalized children.

Researchers at Johns Hopkins Childrenís Center analyzed data from more than 23 million childrenís hospitalizations in 37 states from 1988 to 2005. Compared with insured children, uninsured children faced a 60 percent increased risk of dying, the researchers found.

The authors estimated that at least 1,000 hospitalized children died each year simply because they lacked insurance, accounting for 16,787 of some 38,649 childrenís deaths nationwide during the period analyzed.

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-23-2009, 07:52 PM
 
9,881 posts, read 9,015,898 times
Reputation: 2874
Quote:
Originally Posted by wjtwet View Post
Watching TV the CBO now says the deficit will go up.They revised their own numbers.
How shocking!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-23-2009, 08:09 PM
 
27,903 posts, read 34,356,310 times
Reputation: 4031
Overview National CHIP Policy
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top