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Old 12-23-2009, 11:37 PM
 
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Some years ago I lived in Germany (non-military) and because of a issue with my work permit, lost my job. Several days later I had a severe back problem. The doctor had me admitted to the hospital. I stayed for 3 weeks, getting various treatments and was released feeling much better. The doctor fees, the x-rays, tests, and hospital expenses cost me nothing. It was all taken care of by the AOK.
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:38 PM
 
Location: California
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Some rich guy will pay for it which will work until there is no rich guys left.
Exactly.

liberals love to compare everything to Europe's socialistic model as if it is the perfect solution.

Their system may look great from an outsider's perspective, and on the surface, however it has been plagued by budget deficits and other complications for years.

Food for thought... The Problems with Socialized Health Care (http://www.angelfire.com/pa/sergeman/issues/healthcare/socialized.html - broken link)
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:41 PM
 
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The small country of France is losing $12B a year on their health care system. Take that times about 40 for the US and then throw in a large illegal alien population.

Their system is going broke.
America always prides itself on being the wealthiest nation on earth. Is this just a baseless claim?
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:41 PM
 
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The small country of France is losing $12B a year on their health care system.
Yes, but France comes in first and we come in 37th while spending twice as much per person. Also, everybody is covered, nobody goes broke for being sick, and people have choice.

The French system is not socialist, and while they do run deficits they are changing things to try and fix that. There is a lot we can learn from their system.
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:49 PM
 
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Exactly.

liberals love to compare everything to Europe's socialistic model as if it is the perfect solution.

Their system may look great from an outsider's perspective, and on the surface, however it has been plagued by budget deficits and other complications for years.

Food for thought... The Problems with Socialized Health Care (http://www.angelfire.com/pa/sergeman/issues/healthcare/socialized.html - broken link)
I am so tired of hearing this "liberal" comparison. Do you have any individual thinking skills at all? Our present system looks bad on the surface, on the outside, on the inside, and everywhere in between. We need to make our citizens a PRIORITY and that means Universal Health Care.
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:51 PM
 
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I am so tired of hearing this "liberal" comparison. Do you have any individual thinking skills at all? Our present system looks bad on the surface, on the outside, on the inside, and everywhere in between. We need to make our citizens a PRIORITY and that means Universal Health Care.
You know..."Country First" and all that.
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:55 PM
 
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This is an interesting article on the French system and how it compares to the US one. It is two years old so pre-dates the current debate.

The French Lesson In Health Care
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Old 12-24-2009, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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People there probably pay for their care. Therefore, the cost of their care isn't grossly inflated to offset what isn't paid for due to indigent care.
People do pay for their care, just like people here.
A lot of times people are reimbursed for their expenses if they are part of the national health care system.
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Old 12-24-2009, 09:36 AM
 
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Health Care Lessons From France : NPR
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Some years ago I lived in Germany (non-military) and because of a issue with my work permit, lost my job. Several days later I had a severe back problem. The doctor had me admitted to the hospital. I stayed for 3 weeks, getting various treatments and was released feeling much better. The doctor fees, the x-rays, tests, and hospital expenses cost me nothing. It was all taken care of by the AOK.
That's fine and I am sure it is true, but who do you think was paying for it? There is something too many do not realize, someone has to pay....

Nita
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