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Old 12-24-2009, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Some rich guy will pay for it which will work until there is no rich guys left.
Then we will tax the rich girls! TAX the RICH!!
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Old 12-24-2009, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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I am so tired of hearing this "liberal" comparison. Do you have any individual thinking skills at all? Our present system looks bad on the surface, on the outside, on the inside, and everywhere in between. We need to make our citizens a PRIORITY and that means Universal Health Care.
Wouldn't you really rather pay for WARS??
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Old 12-24-2009, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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This is an interesting article on the French system and how it compares to the US one. It is two years old so pre-dates the current debate.

The French Lesson In Health Care
The French system is vastly superior as is Germany's system.
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Old 12-25-2009, 03:01 PM
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when dealing with American health insurance companies.


AMERICAblog News: My whopping $32 emergency room visit in the land of socialized medicine

An emergency room visit that cost $32 books in France... How nice! People in this country can empty out their bank account with one visit to the ER.

In the end, he would pay about $172 versus 800 in the U.S. How freakin' nice!

I don't understand your point. The insurer will ask for a breakdown of the cost on ANY vist, regardless of how much. Be thankful that your private insurance (Blue Cross is great) will cover you anywhere in the world. If you were on a european socialized plan and needed coverage in another country, you would be screwed. Your plan is a little better than you think. Generally, if something is less than my co-pay, I just pay for it out of pocket. You should probably do the same thing. Insurance is not meant for everything to be "free", as copays help contain costs.
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Old 12-25-2009, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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And ours' isn't? What are we spending on wars - 600 Billion a year and we still pay through the kazoo for health care, not to mention they have nuclear power. Give me a break.
I see that you don't know who has been most against nuclear power construction in the US for over 30 years. Maybe you need to look up that little part.
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Old 12-25-2009, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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The French system is vastly superior as is Germany's system.
Are you talking about healthcare or who pays for it? Just wondering.
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Old 12-25-2009, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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The small country of France is losing $12B a year on their health care system. Take that times about 40 for the US and then throw in a large illegal alien population.


Population of France is around 60 million.
Population of the US is around 300 million.

300/60 = 5

You'll forgive me if I don't assume that the rest of your math is correct
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Old 12-25-2009, 04:47 PM
 
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I don't understand your point. The insurer will ask for a breakdown of the cost on ANY vist, regardless of how much. Be thankful that your private insurance (Blue Cross is great) will cover you anywhere in the world. If you were on a european socialized plan and needed coverage in another country, you would be screwed. Your plan is a little better than you think. Generally, if something is less than my co-pay, I just pay for it out of pocket. You should probably do the same thing. Insurance is not meant for everything to be "free", as copays help contain costs.
Exactly!

I've never understood why people understand that with homeowner's and car insurance deductibles but don't understand it when it comes to health insurance. Too many people think that because they have insurance they are "entitled" to free healthcare for everything beyond the cost of their premium and a low office visit co-pay.

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Old 12-25-2009, 05:28 PM
 
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1 a : rule by a despot b : despotic exercise of power
2 a : a system of government in which the ruler has unlimited power : absolutism b : a despotic state
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The greatest evil is not done now in those sordid `dens of crime' that Dickens loved to paint. It is not even done in concentration camps and labor camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried and minuted) in clear, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice.
~C.S. Lewis~
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Old 12-25-2009, 05:35 PM
 
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“Above these men stands an immense and protective power which alone is responsible for looking after their enjoyments and watching over their destiny. It is absolute, meticulous, ordered, provident, and kindly disposed. It would be like a fatherly authority, if fatherlike, its aim were to prepare men for manhood, but it seeks only to keep them in perpetual childhood….”
~Alexis-Charles-Henri Clérel de Tocqueville~
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