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Old 12-24-2009, 10:42 AM
 
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Everybody is enjoying a good screaming match about this new Health Care Bill the Senate passed this morning.

Some people stand on either extreme, while most people are somewhere in the middle.


But what strikes me is that NOBODY seems to know exactly what this Health Care Bill entails, what it will do, what it will cost, and what it will mean for our Health Care industry.

Furthermore, our Senators don't even seem to have a clue.


So what gives? Do any of you know exactly what it will and won't do?
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Old 12-24-2009, 11:49 AM
 
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Boy, you said a mouthful. The country is running record deficits, the dollar's value is plummeting, foreign countries are beginning to balk at buying our treasuries, and yet we've just pushed through a new sweeping bit of health legislation that is evidently so complex, so expensive, and so riddled with pork that nobody truly understands the dimension of the thing. What's more, Congress has voted it through despite the fact that the majority of the American people had turned against the legislation. I vote independent, but I can guarantee that the 2010 mid-terms are going to be a bloodletting for the Democrats.
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Old 12-24-2009, 03:54 PM
 
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This is my understanding: you will buy health insurance or you will be fined. The only people who are covered in this are the insurance companies.
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Old 12-24-2009, 04:00 PM
 
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Everybody is enjoying a good screaming match about this new Health Care Bill the Senate passed this morning.

Some people stand on either extreme, while most people are somewhere in the middle.


But what strikes me is that NOBODY seems to know exactly what this Health Care Bill entails, what it will do, what it will cost, and what it will mean for our Health Care industry.

Furthermore, our Senators don't even seem to have a clue.


So what gives? Do any of you know exactly what it will and won't do?
I don't understand it either. It's still in progress (unless the Senate is done with it and I just missed that news) so I don't know where all this hype is coming from. I found a copy of the House's version and tried to read it myself. I got down to page 10 and called it quits. I believe it was over 1000 pages long.
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Old 12-24-2009, 04:10 PM
 
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Yeah, I know what it means. I can't use that kind of language here though.

Great Christmas gift, huh? I've expressed it in cartoon form in my profile pics.
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Old 12-24-2009, 07:22 PM
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The only thing IMO and I mean the only thing the bill was to accomplish was to remove the pre-existing condition clause out of insurance policies. That was a humongous loop hole, and bamboozle that the insurance industry has perpetrated on the American people forever. Too bad the industry gambled their golden goose and will loose a lot more now.
lets face it after a certain age we all will have a pre-existing condition. that's what aging is all about.
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Old 12-24-2009, 07:27 PM
 
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it's so punishing to the insurance industry that their stocks are rising on the news of passage. they must be confused!
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Old 12-24-2009, 07:28 PM
 
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Boy, you said a mouthful. The country is running record deficits, the dollar's value is plummeting, foreign countries are beginning to balk at buying our treasuries, and yet we've just pushed through a new sweeping bit of health legislation that is evidently so complex, so expensive, and so riddled with pork that nobody truly understands the dimension of the thing. What's more, Congress has voted it through despite the fact that the majority of the American people had turned against the legislation. I vote independent, but I can guarantee that the 2010 mid-terms are going to be a bloodletting for the Democrats.

cpg35223; Boy you said a mouthful, but true. Congress can care less that the American People have turned against the legislation, they had an agenda to meet, and by gosh, they wanted nothing more then to meet it, but at who's expense in the long run.
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Old 12-24-2009, 08:17 PM
 
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I question any bill passed by congress that has a " last minute" amendment added that is over 300 pages.

Heck, I worked over 29 years at union jobs and our 25 page union contract took over 2 weeks for the lawyers on both sides to read it carefully and make sure there weren't loopholes before it was signed.

Yet, a bill this complicated and over 1,000 pages must be voted on in a short time ?
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Old 12-24-2009, 10:35 PM
 
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Well, it's such a good deal for us that our politicians don't want any part of it for themselves.

What does that tell you?
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