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Old 12-25-2009, 09:23 AM
 
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It's a disaster for our health care system that has to pay for them.
You could apply that to numerous habits and activities. The guy eating cheeseburgers and potato chips all the time, someone riding a bike, walking down the street, moutain climbers or those simply walking through the woods, parachuting, skateboarding, jumping off a high dive, canoeing and kayaking or even boating in general...etc.

These all add to the costs of health care.
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Old 12-25-2009, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Central Illinois -
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You could apply that to numerous habits and activities. The guy eating cheeseburgers and potato chips all the time, someone riding a bike, walking down the street, moutain climbers or those simply walking through the woods, parachuting, skateboarding, jumping off a high dive, canoeing and kayaking or even boating in general...etc.

These all add to the costs of health care.
They sure do. So do polluted water and air as well as man made food sold for mass consumption that is pumped full of chemicals, preservatives and steroids.
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Old 12-25-2009, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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The smoking ban is my homestate has a been a disaster for Casinos and Taverns.
Are you sure it isn't the recession?
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Old 12-25-2009, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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You could apply that to numerous habits and activities. The guy eating cheeseburgers and potato chips all the time, someone riding a bike, walking down the street, moutain climbers or those simply walking through the woods, parachuting, skateboarding, jumping off a high dive, canoeing and kayaking or even boating in general...etc.

These all add to the costs of health care.
However, the examples you give don't impact someone else's health like indoor smoking does.
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Old 12-25-2009, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Houston
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You could apply that to numerous habits and activities. The guy eating cheeseburgers and potato chips all the time, someone riding a bike, walking down the street, moutain climbers or those simply walking through the woods, parachuting, skateboarding, jumping off a high dive, canoeing and kayaking or even boating in general...etc.

These all add to the costs of health care.
You're only valid argument here is fast food.
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Old 12-25-2009, 09:44 AM
 
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Illinois casino's are down more than in Iowa, Michigan, Wisconsin, indiana where casinos are exempt. I can live with a smoking ban in resturants but taverns takes it too far, and Private clubs where the public isn't welcome I mean come on! I say lets ban the sale of tobacco all together if we have laws like this.
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Old 12-25-2009, 10:04 AM
 
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However, the examples you give don't impact someone else's health like indoor smoking does.
I could provide examples for probably all of those activities where your health could be impacted. Here's a pretty good anaolgy, if someone starts climbing a cliff and you stand under where they climbing and they knock a big rock off the cliff who's fault would be if the the rock hits you on the head?

You can make a choice of not walking into an establishment that allows smoking just as you can make a choice to not stand under the climber.
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Old 12-25-2009, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I swore I'd never get into an anit-smoking thread again, so I'm finished here.
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Old 12-25-2009, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Central Illinois -
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Illinois casino's are down more than in Iowa, Michigan, Wisconsin, indiana where casinos are exempt. I can live with a smoking ban in resturants but taverns takes it too far, and Private clubs where the public isn't welcome I mean come on! I say lets ban the sale of tobacco all together if we have laws like this.

Thats why there are now "decks" on every bar, where smokers can be outside in the "beer garden" (read: smokers outlet)
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Old 12-25-2009, 10:50 AM
 
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I swore I'd never get into an anit-smoking thread again, so I'm finished here.
LOL, that was good analogy wasn't it.


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Thats why there are now "decks" on every bar, where smokers can be outside in the "beer garden" (read: smokers outlet)
That's not such a great option here in Pennsylvania when it's 5 degrees out.
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