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Old 12-26-2009, 04:32 PM
 
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Reagan was an actor. He played the roll of patriotic Christian American very well. He delivered his lines well. People bought it.
It's not acting if it spans over 9 decades and encompasses your entire life. If you really cared about supporting your claims you'd know that already and wouldn't have been able to spew your vehement rhetoric in hopes of a "rep." I mean it's only covered in 100 different stories over nearly a century. If you're interested, which I'm sure you're not because then you can't espouse your knee jerk lies, you'll look up That Printer of Udell's & Reagan on google.

Not that it matters if a president attends church or not. Most see it as a disruption to the others in the church because of the massive entourage that has to escort them.
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Old 12-26-2009, 04:36 PM
 
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I didn't assume anything. I simply said I never got that impression. That was based upon my not having noticed him being religious. Where you come up with the assumption comment is anyone's guess. As I've stated however, I could care less about someone's religion or their sex life.

Those things seem really important to the right wingers though.
Dude, the Evil Empire Speech was given at the National Association of Evangelicals. Were you paying attention in the 80's?
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Old 12-26-2009, 04:38 PM
 
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Dude, the Evil Empire Speech was given at the National Association of Evangelicals. Were you paying attention in the 80's?
What are you talking about? Oh you mean a republican president placated the religious right whackos by throwing them some raw meat? And that means what?
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Old 12-26-2009, 04:40 PM
 
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What are you talking about? Oh you mean a republican president placated the religious right whackos by throwing them some raw meat? And that means what?
You can't be much older than 20....
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Old 12-26-2009, 04:47 PM
 
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You can't be much older than 20....
LOL Sure thing son.
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Old 12-26-2009, 04:53 PM
 
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LOL Sure thing son.
Well, if you're truly interested.

American Rhetoric: Ronald Reagan -- Remarks to the National Association of Evangelicals ("Evil Empire")

Maybe you are, maybe you aren't. I'm not going to try to make this out to be a Reagan thread, there are plenty of those. What I did see was a bunch of huffing and puffing about the OP'er making "assumptions" about what Obama is or isn't and then the responses of the people opposing the OP'er did the same thing by dragging another President into the debate and summarily did the same exact thing.

By the way the Evil Empire speech is what Natan Sharansky was quoted as saying "finally the leader of the free world is calling a spade a spade." It was important in Reagan's plan to collapse the Soviet Union and dismiss them as an illegitimate empire whose only goal was to oppress and stifle the freedoms of, what should be, free and sovereign people.
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Old 12-26-2009, 04:56 PM
 
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So BigJon, do you see another Reagan like figure on the horizon?
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Old 12-26-2009, 05:05 PM
 
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So BigJon, do you see another Reagan like figure on the horizon?
No. There are people throughout history that are conditioned for a specific point in history. There will never be another Reagan. Just like there will never be another FDR, Washington and Lincoln. Some people rise to the occasion that they grew up in which is always evolving. What amazes me though is that Reagan was always underestimated. Even with overwhelming evidence, that's been presented to many of the folks on this particular thread, they still underestimate him and what he actually achieved. Even some of his more fierce critics finally acquiesced in the face of overwhelming facts that point out exactly the opposite of what the critics of that time thought of him. Many of those were repeated in here. Things like, he's just an actor, I mean we have Bed-time for Bonzo in the White House. He was a amiable dunce. He was just a puppet. So forth and so on... Thankfully, not even the liberal media was able to re-write history to their liking.
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Old 12-26-2009, 05:22 PM
 
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I guess they don't announce themselves ahead of time.
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Old 12-26-2009, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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You're assuming that all incumbents are bad, that is not necessarily the case. A lot of people are willing to re-elect someone who is merely adequate rather than elect someone who could end up being really inadequate.

That aside, one really interesting phenomenon in regards to incumbency in Congress is that people generally give Congress extremely poor ratings while simultaneously giving their representatives very high ratings. The reason is this: Senators and Representatives work hard to secure 'pork-barrel projects' for their districts. These projects often directly benefit their constituents so and, in doing so, dramatically increase the chances that they will be re-elected by these constituents. Yet, at the same time these constituents have much fewer reasons to like other people's representatives leading them to dislike Congress but like their own Congressmen. This is why Congress can have such low approval ratings yet simultaneously have such low turnover from election to election!
None of them have really been shining wonderful examples either, not even from the first.
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