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Old 12-28-2009, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Austin
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This site has it right: Is College Worth It?
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Old 12-28-2009, 09:05 PM
 
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OK....but quite a few of them are actually getting educations along the way.

The source for this is "Online Colleges and Universities". Is it part of an advertisement for them?
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Old 12-28-2009, 09:07 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Shouldn't this be on the education forum?
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Old 12-28-2009, 09:58 PM
 
Location: NC
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The best description of college I have seen is that it is like a "tournament." People compete for scholarships, grades, grad. school spots, and jobs. There is good money to be made with a college and/or post graduate education, however; like everything else one needs work ethic and ambition to get it. This article does point out very well that in many ways college is about survival of the fittest.
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Old 12-28-2009, 10:11 PM
 
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Shouldn't this be on the education forum?
Who cares.

As the costs of a college education, over the last several years, have skyrocketed and it's value at times comes into question, it can generate some controversal discussions.

Interesting link JJ. Thanks.
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Old 12-28-2009, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I think it's great, it looks at everything that might possibly consider itself a school beyond high school as a "College". Then it extrapolates it and says if a bachelor's at crap colleges isn't worth it because of high rates of unfavorable things, and finds it isn't always worth it. So a bachelor's at every college isn't worth it.

Since they are all bachelor's type institutions it's the same thing right? Unaccredited diploma mill like Hollywood Upstairs College versus internationally accredited Harvard, lump them in the same boat. It's like taking all the 30 year old Pintos and all the Lotuses (There are a great deal more old Pintos still around then Lotuses), combining the stats of them all and saying the collective performance is crap.

It's all the same right? Anything is a college, even if it's just beautician college. Totally comparable to Stanford degrees in Chemical Engineering.
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Old 12-28-2009, 10:30 PM
 
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College is crap for many other reasons. It shouldn't be about a tournament. It should be about learning and independence. You compete with yourself. You become more of who you are. College, even the top tier colleges are now an extension of junior high. Immaturity, childish cliques, and bullies just to "compete" and "survive" is the norm and it is BS. The professors infantalize the students and indoctrinate them. It is really bad. Behind the facade of "learning" and "competition" is anger and rage because nobody is permitted to be an individual.
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Old 12-29-2009, 06:23 PM
 
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College is crap for many other reasons. It shouldn't be about a tournament. It should be about learning and independence. You compete with yourself. You become more of who you are. College, even the top tier colleges are now an extension of junior high. Immaturity, childish cliques, and bullies just to "compete" and "survive" is the norm and it is BS. The professors infantalize the students and indoctrinate them. It is really bad. Behind the facade of "learning" and "competition" is anger and rage because nobody is permitted to be an individual.
The real world is like this as well.
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Old 12-29-2009, 08:09 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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My younger Son would not have the very high Position he has right now, if it were not for College, he makes huge bucks, has a nice home, nice cars, and a very good position. He would not of had this position if it were not for College. Maybe some go to college, for things other then learning, not him, some go to meet people, some like the College seen, knew someone like that, but could care less about the learning, it is to eaches own. but College never hurt a good education.
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Old 12-29-2009, 08:20 PM
 
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Winemaking at Cornell... that one hurts, well until someone, like myself, points out that Cornell has one of the largest agriculture schools in the country which as a land grant college is heavily supported by the State of New York which by the way is second only to California in total wine production.

A personal story, I remember quite a few of my fellow Cornellians who decided to take the wine tasting class thinking that it would be an easy class only to find themselves having to immerse themselves in a little remedial chemistry just to stay afloat until mid-terms.

I could have fun with a number of other alleged salient points but hey.
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