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OK, so, you waterboard them and they "confess" that the victim is buried behind Burger King.
You rush over to Burger King looking for the victim. Turns out, the victim is actually buried behind a 7-11 two counties over.
That waterboarding did you a lot of good.
OK, so, you waterboard them and they "confess" that the victim is buried behind Burger King.
You rush over to Burger King looking for the victim. Turns out, the victim is actually buried behind a 7-11 two counties over.
That waterboarding did you a lot of good.
I don't understand how that should change my previous answer. The cost/benefit analysis was done ahead of time and I factored this probability into my decision.
I don't understand how that should change my previous answer. The cost/benefit analysis was done ahead of time and I factored this probability into my decision.
Me neither since I didn't read what you wrote.
I was pointing out the general absurdity of torture as a means of intel gathering.
OK, so, you waterboard them and they "confess" that the victim is buried behind Burger King.
You rush over to Burger King looking for the victim. Turns out, the victim is actually buried behind a 7-11 two counties over.
That waterboarding did you a lot of good.
the you have time to continue it. But at least you are trying to save yoru family
This really isn't much different than how the law treats self defense. It's illegal to kill someone but if I show there was a good reason to do it (basically was in fear for my life or someone else's) a prosecutor is unliikely to charge me. I'd still want there to be a law against murder for those other situations where the act wasn't done for such a good reason.
the you have time to continue it. But at least you are trying to save yoru family
Wrong, because you're busy digging around at Burger King. Meanwhile, your family is dying at 7-11...a location that is unknown to you.
If you eventually determine that Burger King was false information, you go back and waterboard the accomplish some more and he "confesses" (no seriously, this time it's the truth, he swears) that they're really buried between the Jiffy Lube and Taco Bell 50 miles away.
This really isn't much different than how the law treats self defense. It's illegal to kill someone but if I show there was a good reason to do it (basically was in fear for my life or someone else's) a prosecutor is unliikely to charge me. I'd still want there to be a law against murder for those other situations where the act wasn't done for such a good reason.
Nice answer so you think if you can prove it was done in self defense then it would be ok
If your family had been kidnapped and they had 3 hours to live.
if you had an accomplish in custody and you knew to water board them was the only way to save your family, would you allow the accomplish to be water boarded in order to save your family
Another ridiculous scenario not even worthy of "24".
Let's leave Hollywood for a moment and spice this up with a healthy dose of reality.
1. If one of you loved one's is kidnapped, how would you begin to even find the kidnapper?
2. There is a reason why the police do not allow officers with a personal attachment to a case to interrogate prisoners, emotion does not trump professionalism.
3. In the case of a criminal kidnapping, the kidnapper once apprehended will give up the victim simply by agreeing to a leniency at sentencing.
4. In the case of a hardened jihadist, they will send you on a four hour wild goose chase knowing full well that whatever suffering you inflict has a set end time before completing their mission.
So, Mr. Bauer, waterboard away.
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