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Old 01-02-2010, 05:50 PM
 
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Ron Paul's ideas no longer fringe - latimes.com

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In their less drastic forms, however, Paul's ideas are being welcomed by conservatives and viewed with foreboding by liberals. For conservatives, runaway inflation constitutes the biggest potential threat to the nation's future. Liberals worry that cutting back stimulus efforts too soon could slow or even halt the current recovery.

The debate over that question -- what the basic thrust of U.S. economic policy should be -- is likely to dominate the coming elections and Washington policymaking.
A Ghandi quote comes to mind: "First they ignore you, then they mock you, then they fight you, then you win."
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Old 01-02-2010, 06:00 PM
 
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Paul was only labeled "fringe" for the Republican primaries and election cycle to effectively flush him. I have to laugh as I remember all those referring to me as one of the "Paulbots". Ah, how I miss those days of preaching the gospel wearing my tinfoil hat and listening to Giuliani mockingly chuckle under his breath.
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Old 01-02-2010, 06:04 PM
 
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They were always fringe to Fox n Friends, they made him out to be a loon and pushed hard for the likes of McCain and Palin. If they ran old Ron they would have had a chance last election.
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Old 01-02-2010, 06:04 PM
 
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I don't know why, but I am still surprised that things had to get this screwed up before normal would not be considered fringe.
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Old 01-02-2010, 09:15 PM
 
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Since when? Just because a few million more people support you in this nation of 1/3 a billion people does not make your claims free from classification as 'fringe'.

The statements hes made about Jewish people and blacks, as well as his support for and from white supremacist groups = Hes a fringejob.
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Old 01-02-2010, 10:14 PM
 
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Since when? Just because a few million more people support you in this nation of 1/3 a billion people does not make your claims free from classification as 'fringe'.

The statements hes made about Jewish people and blacks, as well as his support for and from white supremacist groups = Hes a fringejob.
Present his verbatim "statements" with supporting documentation, and we can discuss.

Otherwise, there is no one fringier than a Columbian posting on City Data from the District of Columbia.
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Old 01-02-2010, 10:38 PM
 
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I agree that he's no longer a fringe character. Although his candidacy for President was a disappointment, I'm still impressed with what seems like a growing interest in libertarianism (small "l").
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Old 01-02-2010, 10:49 PM
 
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I don't know why, but I am still surprised that things had to get this screwed up before normal would not be considered fringe.
Libertarianism is fringe, and the idea that such a social/political backwater philosophy is finding room in the "mainstream" should be cause for great concern. Libertarianism is like the Objectivism of Ayn Rand, nobody--and I mean NOBODY, at least no one who understands them--takes those ideologies seriously.
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Old 01-02-2010, 10:50 PM
 
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Libertarianism is like the Objectivism of Ayn Rand, nobody--and I mean NOBODY, at least no one who understands them--takes those ideologies seriously.
"His warnings on deficits and inflation are now Republican mantras."
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Old 01-02-2010, 10:51 PM
 
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I think that's a bit harsh.

It is true that some of Ron Paul's ideas are now being taken seriously. It wasn't that long ago that he was laughed at. For example, the article says:
Paul's long-derided proposal to give Congress supervisory power over the traditionally independent Federal Reserve appears to be on its way to becoming law.
Ha! Nothing but political theater, you'll have universal healthcare before that EVER happens.
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