Underwear Bomber would have evaded even the newest airport scanners (Israeli, illegal)
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We are merely considering logical, reasonable and effective ways to keep American citizens from being killed...
Stop dramatizing the 'where does this stop' line of reasoning - by that thought process - nothing can be tried - because they all infringe on our liberties to some extent. If anyone is over-reacting - you are.
Oh no, I've heard politicians saying we should ban all Muslims from air travel for a given amount of time. There is a thread on this board saying we should suspend Muslims from entering our country for the next 10 to 15 years.
Asking where things are going to stop isn't overreacting, its thinking in real terms.
I'm all for thorough body scans, although they won't stop the terrorism either. I'm all for some kind of technological breakthrough to try and find explosives on any person inside an airport. However, concentrating all screening onto one religious group will only make things worse. Its overreacting to a problem that can't be fixed that way.
If someone wants to throw a lot of money into developing a screening method that works, thats good. If someone wants to ban Muslims, search everyone who "looks Muslim", or strip search everyone who is getting on a plane, thats overreacting.
Oh no, I've heard politicians saying we should ban all Muslims from air travel for a given amount of time. There is a thread on this board saying we should suspend Muslims from entering our country for the next 10 to 15 years.
Asking where things are going to stop isn't overreacting, its thinking in real terms.
I'm all for thorough body scans, although they won't stop the terrorism either. I'm all for some kind of technological breakthrough to try and find explosives on any person inside an airport. However, concentrating all screening onto one religious group will only make things worse. Its overreacting to a problem that can't be fixed that way.
If someone wants to throw a lot of money into developing a screening method that works, thats good. If someone wants to ban Muslims, search everyone who "looks Muslim", or strip search everyone who is getting on a plane, thats overreacting.
I did not say any of those things you are claiming above - so you ARE over-reacting towards me - BIG TIME...
Some want to stick their head in the sand, be a politically correct coward -too afraid to speak their mind for fear of offending someone.
The fact is that Muslims are conducting this war of terror against us - and you can't fight it by being on guard against Swedes or Eskimos - but against those who might have been 'radicalized' by hate-filled Imans and jihadists...
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IThe fact is that Muslims are conducting this war of terror against us .
The fact is it's a relative few Muslims conducting it. Profiling all of them would make about as much sense as having profiled all Catholics, includng Americans, flying to Northern Ireland during the civil war there because the IRA terrorists were Catholic.
The fact is it's a relative few Muslims conducting it. Profiling all of them would make about as much sense as having profiled all Catholics, includng Americans, flying to Northern Ireland during the civil war there because the IRA terrorists were Catholic.
No one is saying profile all of them, but folks like you are against profiling any of them...
Here you go - jumping to wild, baseless conclusions because you are frustrated and can't win a debate...
Are you like this in real life - or just on the internet?
Let me get this straight. You propose profiling people based on their religion and I tell you can't because it's unconstitutional. What's wild and baseless?
Let me get this straight. You propose profiling people based on their religion and I tell you can't because it's unconstitutional. What's wild and baseless?
You would profile based on country of origin, where they have traveled recently, based on FACTS that give you reason for a closer look....
You would NOT profile based soley on religion - that would be held unconstitutional I'm sure - although I can't help it if those countries we need fear are overwhelmingly Muslim.
Yes - that would result in more muslims being profiled - because we are fighting Islamic terrorism and need to keep watch on those who go to areas where 'jihadist radicalization' is a fact of life. It's not my fault that Islam persecutes other religions out of existance... and that the countries we need worry about - where Al Queda and jihadist training camps reside -are overwhelmingly muslim.
So - out of curiosity - which clause in the constitution makes profiling unlawful - do you even know?
You would profile based on country of origin, where they have traveled recently, based on FACTS that give you reason for a closer look....
You would NOT profile based soley on religion - that would be held unconstitutional I'm sure - although I can't help it if those countries we need fear are overwhelmingly Muslim.
Yes - that would result in more muslims being profiled - because we are fighting Islamic terrorism and need to keep watch on those who go to areas where 'jihadist radicalization' is a fact of life. It's not my fault that Islam persecutes other religions out of existance... and that the countries we need worry about - where Al Queda and jihadist training camps reside -are overwhelmingly muslim.
So - out of curiosity - which clause in the constitution makes profiling unlawful - do you even know?
Oh so you agree now that profiling on religion, the only thing you previously suggested is unconstitutional. Now you're talking country of origin which is permissible. You're changing your story. But keep in mind, you cannot single out muslims so you'll be treating everyone from those countries the same. Religious profiling would presumably be ruled unconstitutional under Amendment 1.
If you're going to do it by country of origin why do it at the airport? Why not just be more selective about who from these countries get visas from our embassies and consulates?
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