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Old 01-04-2010, 01:09 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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I noticed no one has disputed the editorial on the basis of fact, they stamp their feet, shrieking. it is a right wing newspaper...that is all they can say. They know it is the truth. Facts are stubborn things.
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Old 01-04-2010, 01:51 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I noticed no one has disputed the editorial on the basis of fact, they stamp their feet, shrieking. it is a right wing newspaper...that is all they can say. They know it is the truth. Facts are stubborn things.
It says that Obama failed to close Guantanamo Bay yet he needed to find a suitable place to put the prisoners and all of the opposition from Republicans did not make for an easy transition. Peace in the Middle East? A war that has been going on for this long wont end in a day and in fact it is a safer place. The part about outreaching to the Muslim community is an outright lie. Obama has been lauded for his connections to the Muslim world. One success? I guess they overlooked healthcare reform for one, maybe they were too busy coming up with a way to spin this article to make it sound bad. I don't feel like going on because you get the picture. Any one can spin anything, it just happens a lot more with these types.
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Old 01-04-2010, 09:08 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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"Obama's Brilliant First Year"

"By January, he will have accomplished more than any first-year president since Franklin Roosevelt."

Obama is having the best first year of any president since Franklin Roosevelt. - By Jacob Weisberg - Slate Magazine

The anti-Obama crowd has their "truth", and I've got mine.
That's a great article and medical reform, even if flawed from a progressive perspective, is the single biggest domestic accomplishment since the New Deal. Also the stimulus (and the second half of TARP, Bush administered the first half & Obama the second) has, according to just about every reasonable economist, saved us from a much worse recession. Sure, since 60% of the stimulus was tax cuts (just try to get a right winger to admit that!) it's more long term then short term stimulus but even John McCain's former chief economic adviser has said it's had a big impact and is working.
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Old 01-04-2010, 09:22 AM
 
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Reading the responses on this thread, its amazing to me that even the most rabid followers of Obama still won't acknowledge that Obama's lofty rhetoric was definitely tempered by reality once in office. Just mindboggling.
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Old 01-04-2010, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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If Obama's shortcomings and global failings weren't so egregious, it might actually be funny. Shoot the messenger if you want, but you cannot deny the facts.

These are just downright embarrassing...the man is clearly out of his league as a global leader...
"Other embarrassing Obama moments on the world stage include: giving England's Queen Elizabeth II an iPod with his own speeches on it; giving British Prime Minister Gordon Brown a collection of DVDs that were not formatted to the European standard (by contrast, Mr. Brown gave Mr. Obama an ornamental desk-pen holder made from the oak timbers of Victorian anti-slaver HMS Gannet, among other historically significant gifts); calling "Austrian" a language; bowing to the Saudi king; bowing to the Japanese emperor; releasing a photo of a conference call with Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in which the president was showing the soles of his shoes to the camera (an Arab insult); saying "let me be absolutely clear. Israel is a strong friend of Israel's"; saying the United States was "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world"; suggesting Arabic translators be shifted from Iraq to Afghanistan where Arabic is not a native language; sending a letter to former French President Jacques Chirac when Nicolas Sarkozy was the president of France; holding a town-hall meeting in France and not calling on a single French citizen; referring to "Cinco de Cuatro" in front of the Mexican ambassador when he meant Cinco de Mayo; and failing in a last minute personal appeal to the International Olympic Committee to hold the 2016 Olympics in Chicago. Mr. Obama's Nobel Peace Prize capped the year by drawing attention to his lack of achievement."
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Old 01-04-2010, 10:16 AM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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Default Stop the presses!

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"President Obama's freshman-year foreign policy was the worst in living memory. At the dawn of 2010, the United States finds itself noticeably weaker in international affairs than it was when Mr. Obama took office, and there are no signs of improvement in the year ahead."


"Mr. Obama's first-week pledge to close the detainee facility at Guantanamo Bay within a year set the tone for 2009. It was a victory of symbolism over substance that proved to be more difficult to implement than he expected, and Mr. Obama soon found that it was easier to make lofty promises than to deliver prudent policies."

The Editorial continues here, it is alarming:

EDITORIAL: Obama's failed freshman year - Washington Times

Newsflash!

Conservative opinion piece slags Obama!

Details at 6 and 10pm!
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Old 01-04-2010, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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"President Obama's freshman-year foreign policy was the worst in living memory. At the dawn of 2010, the United States finds itself noticeably weaker in international affairs than it was when Mr. Obama took office, and there are no signs of improvement in the year ahead."


"Mr. Obama's first-week pledge to close the detainee facility at Guantanamo Bay within a year set the tone for 2009. It was a victory of symbolism over substance that proved to be more difficult to implement than he expected, and Mr. Obama soon found that it was easier to make lofty promises than to deliver prudent policies."

The Editorial continues here, it is alarming:

EDITORIAL: Obama's failed freshman year - Washington Times
The "symbolism over substance" was epitomized with his acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize, and his god awful diplomatic skills were epitomized by his two worthless trips to Copenhagen, and his inability to lead has been epitomized by his allowing Pelosi and Reid to steam roll over him on health care and his signing of pork laden bills.

Last edited by Wapasha; 01-04-2010 at 11:41 AM.. Reason: typo
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:30 PM
 
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If Obama's shortcomings and global failings weren't so egregious, it might actually be funny.
Now that was funny.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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Now that was funny.
Glad you found that humorous, now rep me for it HAHAHA
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Keonsha, Wisconsin
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Filmed LIVE at Rockefeller Plaza, you know, the place that Glen Beck said was eeeeeevil?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAtKO3jAytY
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