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Old 01-09-2010, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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What does it matter if global warming is true or not? Halting the rise of greenhouse gas emissions is just plain good for human beings. The release of carbon dioxide and other gases into cities is not good for our lungs and getting off our dependency on fossil fuels will help with our growing problems in the Mid East. Going green can also help our economy like the dot.com growth did in the past. It's a win-win and IF the scientists prove to be right, we're on track to slow down global warming. And IF they prove to be wrong, I see no downside to going green....unless you own stock in the oil companies.

This is EXACTLY my perspective. I'm no scientist so I don't know whether global warming is happening or not, but I do know we need to do more to protect our planet and if you don't think so, then I've got to think you're just ignorant.
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Old 01-09-2010, 01:57 PM
 
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You obviously haven't.
John Coleman, the founder of the Weather Channel, angrily discuses the HOAX of C02 global warming scam.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRQl5...eature=related

John Coleman, and 30,000 Scientists (9,000 PhDs) want to sue Al Gore over the man made global warming scam. 30,000 scientists challenging the ridiculous claim of a scientific consensus.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfHW7...eature=related

Global warming Hoax documentary ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpWa7...eature=related

There, you don't even have to read ... just watch, learn, and stop being duped with lies and propaganda.
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Old 01-09-2010, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Kentucky
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This is EXACTLY my perspective. I'm no scientist so I don't know whether global warming is happening or not, but I do know we need to do more to protect our planet and if you don't think so, then I've got to think you're just ignorant.

And what does doing more to protect the planet entail?



Like I said before, I would go off the grid right now if it was reasonable money-wise. I would love to have solar power running my home, but I cannot afford the massive cost involved. I make a good living, but unless you are super-rich or have the time and skills involved with installing it yourself, green energy is unaffordable for the vast majority of the world.
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Old 01-09-2010, 02:50 PM
 
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I am confused on this global warming issue. It was 5 degrees here in my part of KY last night. Had a major ice storm last year about this time. We have had four seasons here for as long as I can remember. Sometimes above normal temps and other times, normal or below temps. Shouldn't it be getting WARMER here all the time? I have a simple theory as to why we are still having four seasons and temps going up and down like normal...

GLOBAL WARMING DOESN'T EXIST!!!
We all agree that climate change is something that occurs over a very long time (at least for us earthlings).

What I would really like to see is a graph with a moving average to smooth out fluctuations showing temperatures, precipitation, etc. over large time periods and large geographic areas superimposed over several variables that are used to measure things we consider to be polutants, both man made and non man made.

Does anyone know if such a study, without political comment, exists?
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Old 01-09-2010, 03:21 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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I would go off the grid right now if it was reasonable money-wise. I would love to have solar power running my home, but I cannot afford the massive cost involved. I make a good living, but unless you are super-rich or have the time and skills involved with installing it yourself, green energy is unaffordable for the vast majority of the world.
Don't you think the price of going green would come down a LOT with a national push to 'green up'?
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Old 01-09-2010, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Kentucky
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Don't you think the price of going green would come down a LOT with a national push to 'green up'?
Do you honestly think electric, gas, oil, etc companies will allow that? Sure, but not in our lifetime.
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Old 01-09-2010, 05:13 PM
 
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What does it matter if global warming is true or not? Halting the rise of greenhouse gas emissions is just plain good for human beings. The release of carbon dioxide and other gases into cities is not good for our lungs and getting off our dependency on fossil fuels will help with our growing problems in the Mid East. Going green can also help our economy like the dot.com growth did in the past. It's a win-win and IF the scientists prove to be right, we're on track to slow down global warming. And IF they prove to be wrong, I see no downside to going green....unless you own stock in the oil companies.
"Considering that man made influence is a very very small percentage of influence concerning green house gases, could you in your infinite wisdom please explain to the good folks here how reducing that which is predominately a natural occurrence is "good" for human beings?

Oh, and please use logically and scientifically driven evidence to support such as we have had enough of "pull it out of your arse" claims around here. We will be waiting for your "oh so expertise" opinion on this matter.
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Old 01-09-2010, 05:25 PM
 
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If you deny the science of climate change then you must deny that 9/11 was a terrorist attack and embrace conspiracy theories. The science is indisputable in both cases.
Well golly darn there Mr. Wizard! You see, us poor dumb folk would love to talk about them there science thingy, but ya see, those there people who keep claiming this there "science" keep on refusing to talk about that there science.

So, when you smart fellas want to come on back and discuss this here science thingy, why us here slow folk would just be happy to. Now you remember to bring some of that there science you keep talking about, cause we can smell "****" from a mile away so you best have your ducks in a row.

We will be waiting for your "science" and if you are feeling smart enough, just let us have it.

Personally, I am looking forward to the kind of stupid you will look when you try. You go on now, bring it there Mr. Wizard.
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Old 01-09-2010, 06:02 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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What does it matter if global warming is true or not? Halting the rise of greenhouse gas emissions is just plain good for human beings. The release of carbon dioxide and other gases into cities is not good for our lungs and getting off our dependency on fossil fuels will help with our growing problems in the Mid East. Going green can also help our economy like the dot.com growth did in the past. It's a win-win and IF the scientists prove to be right, we're on track to slow down global warming. And IF they prove to be wrong, I see no downside to going green....unless you own stock in the oil companies.
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"Considering that man made influence is a very very small percentage of influence concerning green house gases, could you in your infinite wisdom please explain to the good folks here how reducing that which is predominately a natural occurrence is "good" for human beings?

Oh, and please use logically and scientifically driven evidence to support such as we have had enough of "pull it out of your arse" claims around here. We will be waiting for your "oh so expertise" opinion on this matter.
My my, aren't you a little testy tonight. I said nothing in my post that needs to be supported with "scientific evidence." Any asthma sufferer who's ever been in city on a high ozone day knows that reducing our emissions would be good for human lungs. If that ozone isn't produced by man, then why don't people in the country have to deal with high ozone days? I don't have to know if scientists are right or wrong about green house gases to know that going green is a good thing to work towards for our future generations.

By the way, that was my very first post in this topic so take you anger some where else. I gave my opinion and made no claims to be an expert at anything.

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Old 01-09-2010, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Under a bridge.
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If you deny the science of climate change then you must deny that 9/11 was a terrorist attack and embrace conspiracy theories. The science is indisputable in both cases.
That statement is completely illogical. It is nearly stupid in content.
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