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You figure a term as "going off the wall" would actually be somewhere researchable, as in passing on someone's blog mentioning what you are talking about.
Yet it only returns 10 results on Google, and nothing about West Point or "wanting" to commit or committing suicide.
BTW, my brother is a West Point graduate (4 years ago); and he's never heard the term "going off the wall"
You figure a term as "going off the wall" would actually be somewhere researchable, as in passing on someone's blog mentioning what you are talking about.
Yet it only returns 10 results on Google, and nothing about West Point or "wanting" to commit or committing suicide.
BTW, my brother is a West Point graduate (4 years ago); and he's never heard the term "going off the wall"
He doesn't have a PhD after his name, didn't work there for 40 years and doesn't know what is said in the office, my brother was in there with them. That is how it was described if you didn't want to say the word.
Also your brother is a recent cadet.
My brother is retired.
My brother worked there for 40 years and treated the ones who wanted to "go off of the wall" so go lay down and rest.
You remain hopelessly confused. The phrase "go off the wall" is not used today at West Point as a euphemism for suicide. It was not used as one 30 years ago either. I have polled no small number of my classmates over the last day on this issue. Not a single one of them has ever heard the phrase.
Cadet slang has such a long and respective tradition that it's even formally recorded in an annual publication called "Bugle Notes." Most of it has been unchanged for more than a century. This may have been what your brother called it... so you can blame him for misleading you.
But you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
You remain hopelessly confused. The phrase "go off the wall" is not used today at West Point as a euphemism for suicide. It was not used as one 30 years ago either. I have polled no small number of my classmates over the last day on this issue. Not a single one of them has ever heard the phrase.
Cadet slang has such a long and respective tradition that it's even formally recorded in an annual publication called "Bugle Notes." Most of it has been unchanged for more than a century. This may have been what your brother called it... so you can blame him for misleading you.
But you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
I am not going to argue with you about this, you can spend all of your time trying to prove me wrong but evidently are not in touch with what goes on in a Doctors office OR in touch with people who had these thoughts.
I seriously doubt that a means of suicide is going to be in "Bugle Notes" lol, really, its not.
I stood by "the wall" and looked down. Nobody is going to come over it or go over it when they want to sneak out after taps.
Think back to the highest building with room to stand and maybe that is the right "wall" to climb over and jump.
Maybe you have to be a Dr to understand the term. I am a Dr's sister, that is what it was called by Dr and patient.
You are misinformed and I know exactly what I am talking about.
End of conversation.
I am not going to argue with you about this, you can spend all of your time trying to prove me wrong but evidently are not in touch with what goes on in a Doctors office OR in touch with people who had these thoughts.
Maggie... a civilian staff psychologist has no more authority over what is or is not Cadet slang than a waiter in the mess hall.
Again... you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
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I seriously doubt that a means of suicide is going to be in "Bugle Notes" lol, really, its not.
I repeat. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
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I stood by "the wall" and looked down. Nobody is going to come over it or go over it when they want to sneak out after taps.
And I have been to the Eiffel Tower. That doesn't mean I know how to speak French.
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Think back to the highest building with room to stand and maybe that is the right "wall" to climb over and jump.
That would be jumping off a building, not going off a wall.
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Maybe you have to be a Dr to understand the term. I am a Dr's sister, that is what it was called by Dr and patient.
And neither of you are West Pointers. So your frantic back pedaling here might be your excuse for being wrong. But you are still wrong.
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You are misinformed and I know exactly what I am talking about.
Maybe you have to be a Dr to understand the term. I am a Dr's sister, that is what it was called by Dr and patient.
You are misinformed and I know exactly what I am talking about.
End of conversation.
I am a nuclear physicist's wife, so I can build a bomb.
He doesn't have a PhD after his name, didn't work there for 40 years and doesn't know what is said in the office, my brother was in there with them. That is how it was described if you didn't want to say the word.
Also your brother is a recent cadet.
My brother is retired.
Seems very unprofessional for your brother to be using an euphemism like 'going off the wall.'
To get back to the thread topic, does anyone know what happened to the captain who refused orders because he wanted Obama to produce a birth certificate first? Is his court marital trial over yet?
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