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More importantly, none of them actually can provide a coherent conspiracy theory to begin with. They can't even answer the question of "why" there would have been a conspiracy to begin with. Why?
Not necessarily a conspiracy, though it's telling that you're thinking along those lines.
Different legal requirements decades ago may have effected the current indeterminate situation. We won't know until Obama releases the original birth certificate listing the hospital and doctor's signature. It exists. Release it.
Under current law, yes. All the way back to 1961? You're going to have to prove that.
Actually, no, I don't have to prove that.
The assertion is ridiculous that any state would knowingly falsify birth records, which is what you are claiming. The state indicates on the birth certificate the place of birth, and if you were applying for one of these birth certificates, obviously you were not born in Honolulu. So the state would not certify that you were, because doing so would invalidate all the birth certificates of people actually born in Honolulu. The state of Hawaii is actually quite cognizant of the legal ramifications that would ensue if they falsified such information. Or are you claiming that the State is governed by idiots as well as conspirators?
Not necessarily a conspiracy, though it's telling that you're thinking along those lines.
Different legal requirements decades ago may have effected the current indeterminate situation. We won't know until Obama releases the original birth certificate listing the hospital and doctor's signature. It exists. Release it.
Are you saying that any American woman who give birth under the age of 18 between 1952 and 1986 was giving birth to a child who was NOT an American at birth, even if she never set foot on foreign soil? How did that entire bunch of babies become legal aliens then, if not by birth? What process did they have to go through? Wouldn't the citizenship of the under age girl's parents then automatically apply to the baby, since the mother would have been a minor back then under 21? Why wouldn't the so-called anchor baby rule apply to under age births if the grandparent's citizenship didn't already cover the baby (which I think it does)?
No, that's not what I'm saying. Obviously, she must have set foot on foreign soil if that's where she gave birth. (If you were born in say, France, your mother must have been there, too, right?)
Again - This only applies to FOREIGN births where the other parent is not American.
Yep, I plan on driving over to Oklahoma today, and asking them to print me up one of their fine birth certificates. I'm checking right now to see who's richer, Julia Roberts or Diane Lane, 'cause once I've got that birth certificate, the sky's the limit, baby!
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