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Old 04-21-2010, 05:17 PM
 
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When John Nay wrote his now famous letter to Washington asking for a strong check preventing foreigners e.g. aliens from being President who were the foreigners at that time in America?<snip>
Irrelevant, President Obama is not a foreigner.

 
Old 04-21-2010, 05:23 PM
 
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Aren't you forgetting that he went to visit is mother and sister in Indonesia in the summer of 1981 and then went on to travel with a college friend to Pakistan?
Whatever passport he used in 1981 would not be valid in 2006. They expire.
 
Old 04-21-2010, 05:29 PM
 
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Irrelevant, President Obama is not a foreigner.
At the framing of the Constitution and after its approval who were the foreigners is my question. Who were the Founders trying to prevent from being President?

What did they really mean by a natural born citizen, who were natural born citizens when the Constitution was ratified.
 
Old 04-21-2010, 05:35 PM
 
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At the framing of the Constitution and after its approval who were the foreigners is my question. Who were the Founders trying to prevent from being President?

What did they really mean by a natural born citizen, who were natural born citizens when the Constitution was ratified.
The answer would be pure speculation because there is no ruling on the definition of
Natural Born Citizen.
 
Old 04-21-2010, 05:53 PM
 
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Where is the evidence for ANYTHING in that article? Why would you demand more proof from Obama without demanding any proof for the allegations being made? Makes no sense to me.
 
Old 04-21-2010, 05:53 PM
 
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please provide me with information on how i can see any documentation of birth on any of these 4 men.
When I looked up "Bush birth certificate" on google, all I found was a bunch of spoof stuff and links to the Obama birth cert. controversy. I didn't even find that much on Clinton.

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Whatever passport he used in 1981 would not be valid in 2006. They expire.
I am beginning to wonder if you've ever had a passport. Passports can be renewed.
 
Old 04-21-2010, 05:55 PM
 
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The answer would be pure speculation because there is no ruling on the definition of
Natural Born Citizen.

"there is no ruling on the definition of Natural Born Citizen"
 
Old 04-21-2010, 06:01 PM
 
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So it's time to add more information to this discussion. There are alot of pieces to this issue that should be looked at also.

Kenya Birth Certificate

to date all the " kenyan birth certificates " displayed have been shown to be forgeries.

Investigation reveals numerous bogus claims on Obama resume

none of these claims effect eligibility.

Obama Where have all his records gone

all of these records are private not public . same for me and you. as far as i know no president has ever released their school records for public inspection before or during their term ( bush's were leaked without his approval ). plus none of these records effect eligibility

Obama conspiracy Its no longer just a theory March 3, 2010 Sonoran News

again, this has no effect on eligibility.

httpwww.americanthinker.com201002a_further_inquiry _into_obamas_1
nice editorial but doesn't offer anything that would effect eligibility.
 
Old 04-21-2010, 06:05 PM
 
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"there is no ruling on the definition of Natural Born Citizen"
So you appear to agree yet you continuously post that Obama is not a
Natural Born Citizen...why?
 
Old 04-21-2010, 06:05 PM
 
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I am beginning to wonder if you've ever had a passport. Passports can be renewed.
Yes, I have one. I know they can be renewed.

The questions are... Was Obama included on his mother's passport, as was done back in the 1960s, when they travelled to Indonesia? Or did he get a passport of his own? When he eventually did get one of his own, what kind of a birth certificate did he use to get it? Was it an attended birth certificate, with the hospital and doctor's signature listed? Or was it the kind where "any person having knowledge of the birth" could say whatever they want and have that entered into the birth record?
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