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Old 04-22-2010, 07:27 AM
 
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Here's an explanation on a Natural Born Citizen.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States;” However, the XIV Amendment makes no mention of “natural born citizen” as it was written to address issues of “immigration” and “naturalization,”—which excludes any redress regarding “native” or “natural born” citizens of the Unites States. In short, “natural born” is the exact opposite of “naturalized.” They are two completely different subjects and as we know, “naturalized citizens” cannot hold the office of President, though they are indeed “citizens” with otherwise equal rights. As Barack Hussein Obama’s stated birth father, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was at no time in his life a citizen of the United States, but rather a British subject and native citizen of Kenya, it is not possible for Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. to be a “natural born citizen” of the United States. It is therefore not possible for Barack Hussein Obama Jr. to be a constitutionally qualified resident of the people’s White House.


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Too bad this is bull****.

Several of our Presidents have had foreign-born parents. Born in the USA equals natural-born. Unless you can find a court decision that says otherwise. (Hint: you can't.)

 
Old 04-22-2010, 07:28 AM
 
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Congress should have hearings to consider suspending Obama being CINC until it is 100% definite and without a doubt to all Americans he was born in Hawaii and it is ruled by the Supreme Court is a Natural Born Citizen.
"Without a doubt to all Americans"....roflmao.
 
Old 04-22-2010, 07:43 AM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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Obama's birth was registered four days after his birth. .
Obama was born on a Friday night. It wasn't possible to submit paperwork until gov't offices opened on Monday - then add a day for processing.
 
Old 04-22-2010, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Yes, I have one. I know they can be renewed.

The questions are... Was Obama included on his mother's passport, as was done back in the 1960s, when they travelled to Indonesia? Or did he get a passport of his own? When he eventually did get one of his own, what kind of a birth certificate did he use to get it? Was it an attended birth certificate, with the hospital and doctor's signature listed? Or was it the kind where "any person having knowledge of the birth" could say whatever they want and have that entered into the birth record?
I got a passport as a kid in the 1960s as did my brother and sister. We all had our own passports - none of us was included on either of our parents' passports.
And, note that the article said 'passports', not 'passport'. It also says that neither had ever left the country up to that point.
 
Old 04-22-2010, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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i believe informed is talking about when stanley ann moved to seattle after obama's birth.
She didn't move to Seattle after his birth. Her father moved the family from Seattle to Hawaii when she was still in high school. She then lived in Hawaii until she moved to Indonesia to be with her new husband, six years after the President was born (in Hawaii).
 
Old 04-22-2010, 07:53 AM
 
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Too bad this is bull****.

Several of our Presidents have had foreign-born parents. Born in the USA equals natural-born. Unless you can find a court decision that says otherwise. (Hint: you can't.)
How about being born in an incubator on the moon - would that be natural-born too?

Born in the USA equals native-born, but not necessarily natural-born.

Well! I guess being born in Canada is native-born, too - to Canadians, that is!

Many of the natives are restless.
 
Old 04-22-2010, 07:55 AM
 
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She didn't move to Seattle after his birth.
article about stanley ann's time in seattle after the birth.:

Denied:1up! Software () (http://www.capitolhilltimes.com/main.asp?SectionID=26&SubSectionID=248&ArticleID=2 7447 - broken link)
 
Old 04-22-2010, 08:09 AM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Obama was born on a Friday night. It wasn't possible to submit paperwork until gov't offices opened on Monday - then add a day for processing.
I think you misunderstood me. I have worked in OB. It is common for the bc to be processed a few days later. What I'm saying is these laws about delayed bcs that take different information is that they are for people who are applying for a bc a year or more after the birth. If Obama had such an alternative bc, the registration date would be much later.
 
Old 04-22-2010, 11:28 AM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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I think you misunderstood me. I have worked in OB. It is common for the bc to be processed a few days later. What I'm saying is these laws about delayed bcs that take different information is that they are for people who are applying for a bc a year or more after the birth. If Obama had such an alternative bc, the registration date would be much later.
I'm in agreement with you - it's just that some see a the 4 day delay (over a weekend) as a sign of shenanigans and a weekend dash from the middle of a jungle (Kenya or Indonesia- take your pick) across an ocean.
 
Old 04-22-2010, 12:23 PM
 
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Kenya or Indonesia- take your pick.
i've never understood where the " born in indonesia " concept comes from. i get the thought process behind " indonesian citizen " theory. somebody ( my guess is lolo soetoro but.... dunno ) listed obama as indonesian citizen on an elementary school application. great. only problem with that is it defies the rules of the US state dept on citizenship. where is any evidence that any obama or dunham was anywhere near indonesia in '61 ?
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