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Old 05-01-2010, 12:38 PM
 
Location: NW Houston
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Originally Posted by wrecking ball View Post
how will knowing which hospital obama was born in put to rest the issue for those that believe you need both parents to be citizens ? or those that believe obama has indonesian citizenship ?
Kenyan hospital or American hospital. His mom was too young for Bama to be natural born citizen if he in fact was born outside the US.

I posted that way back, you can find it easily clicking on my profile and choose see all deturmine's posts.

 
Old 05-01-2010, 12:45 PM
 
Location: NW Houston
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A Birther Fantasy - The Boys From Mombasa

Oddly enough, no one in political life has ever demanded to see George W.
Bush's birth certificate.

But when it comes to his successor, the birther conspiracy theories have
displayed stubborn staying power, with 20 percent of Americans -- and,
tellingly, 32 percent of Republicans -- mistakenly believing that Barack Obama
was not born in this country and, as a result, cannot legally serve as president.

Continued
I think it is a well known fact that both his parents were born in the USA. I have been to George Bush Senior's birth place in Massachusetts.

Name a single president that had a foriegn born father post John Quincy Adams ( prior to that many americans had foriegn born parents)

Oh, why not add riduculous comment that McLaim was born in Panama? Duh? Both his parents were born here and US law covers military children born overseas.

So go ahead name one other president after JQ Adams that had a foriegn born parent that was not a naturalized citizen.

Go ahead PLEASE !!!
 
Old 05-01-2010, 12:52 PM
 
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Kenyan hospital or American hospital. His mom was too young for Bama to be natural born citizen if he in fact was born outside the US.

I posted that way back, you can find it easily clicking on my profile and choose see all deturmine's posts.
i think you missed the point of my question. some people will still claim that he is ineligible due to the fact that his father is kenyan or the belief that he aquired indonessian citizenship no matter where he was born.
 
Old 05-01-2010, 12:56 PM
 
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I think it is a well known fact that both his parents were born in the USA. I have been to George Bush Senior's birth place in Massachusetts.

Name a single president that had a foriegn born father post John Quincy Adams ( prior to that many americans had foriegn born parents)

Oh, why not add riduculous comment that McLaim was born in Panama? Duh? Both his parents were born here and US law covers military children born overseas.

So go ahead name one other president after JQ Adams that had a foriegn born parent that was not a naturalized citizen.

Go ahead PLEASE !!!
chester a. arthur
 
Old 05-01-2010, 12:56 PM
 
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By definition and by law, the COLB that Obama released two years ago is a birth certificate. Furthermore, according to the United States Department of State it is absolute legal proof of Obama's citizenship status. I am not just speaking generally here. In their response to the case of Strunk vs. the United States Department of State, the DoS explicitly affirmed that Obama's COLB is genuine and that it constitutes proof of his citizenship. It settles a handful of other Birther theories as well, such as whether Obama had ever been adopted or ever been a citizen of Indonesia.

No to both.


Left wing hack? LOL

Pulleeeze!!
Absolute Legal Proof?
Pulleeeze!!


Like it says in the bottom of Obama's COLB
"This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding"

Prima Facie Evidence Law & Legal Definition
Prima Facie Evidence Law & Legal Definition
Prima facie evidence is that evidence which is sufficient to establish a fact or sustain a judgment unless it is rebutted or contradictory evidence is produced. The prima facie evidence rule does not shut out evidence; instead it declares that a particular conduct shall be enough as evidence until and unless the opposing party produces contradictory evidence.
 
Old 05-01-2010, 01:00 PM
 
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<snip>So go ahead name one other president after JQ Adams that had a foriegn born parent that was not a naturalized citizen.

Go ahead PLEASE !!!
Why? It is not a requirement that both parents be American citizens
to be eligible to run for POTUS...
 
Old 05-01-2010, 01:00 PM
 
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to date no evidence has been produced that would over rule the COLB.
 
Old 05-01-2010, 01:02 PM
 
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1. But more to the point, if this is what happened, tough. You still need to present evidence that the information on the birth certificate is not true. And we all know that, still, after two years of rabid frothing and searching, you have none.

So... even a long form certificate that said his birth was unattended is of exactly no help to you. It would still be considered legal proof that he was born in Hawaii.
Oh tough! Too Bad! We have a leftist, lying, socialist, WM Ayers buddy, Renko friend foriegn born muslim president.

Oh tough as he wipes his @ss with the Constitution.

Oh tough when all his leftist agenda comes to an end next year.

Oh tough when records are ordered unsealed and we have to question every law and every executive order he signed.

The longform will show the attending physician and due to its color variations hard to fake.

The short form ... give some Obama Pie to anyone who will take it at the office of Vital records ... tadhah!!! Instant short form cert.

If you are hiding something investigators and procecuters will use that as circumstantial evidence. Maybe not enough on its own for a conviction but enough for an investigation. That is all we want here.

That long form cert. would halt the investigation in its tracks.
 
Old 05-01-2010, 01:04 PM
 
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Why? It is not a requirement that both parents be American citizens
to be eligible to run for POTUS...
You know why Libby ...

Just go find one ... we all ready know about Hughs but he lost to Wilson.

Find one ... Find one ... Find one ...
 
Old 05-01-2010, 01:05 PM
 
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You know why Libby ...

Just go find one ... we all ready know about Hughs but he lost to Wilson.

Find one ... Find one ... Find one ...
I do not....why Birther?
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