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Old 01-05-2010, 04:56 PM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Name one President who didn't "promise" to do something with congress he wasn't able to deliver on?


George Washington

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Answer? NONE! Reality the POTUS can influence but not control.
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Another answer: next.
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Old 01-05-2010, 04:57 PM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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I don't think he campaigned on compelling Congress to televise its proceedings on C-Span. He mentioned giving C-Span greater access to negotiations on health care reform. It wasn't exactly a campaign platform.

My issue isn't that the President shouldn't urge Congress and its leaders to greater transparency, my issue is with the title of the thread, which is misleading, and the argument that is being made by some on this thread that he can make it happen. He doesn't have the power to force Congress to do this. He never did.

And, btw, you know I love arguing with you, right?
DC two step.
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Old 01-05-2010, 05:00 PM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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I'm curious. Back when you were in school did they teach you about the 3 seperate branches of government and the seperation of powers?
Have you followed politics in recent years and seen the seperation fade away?
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Old 01-05-2010, 05:22 PM
LML
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Have you followed politics in recent years and seen the seperation fade away?
Just because the last administration tried to act as though the constitution was "just a piece of paper" and did their best to assume for themselves the power of all 3 branches of government doesn't mean it was right and doesn't mean it should continue.
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Old 01-05-2010, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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AP/C-SPAN
TV network uses Obama's own words against him, calling for Congress to open closed-door health care talks and televise them as the president pledged on campaign trail.


FOXNews.com - C-SPAN Challenges Congress to Open Health Care Talks to TV Coverage
OBAMA IS A LIAR! That pretty much sums him up.
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Old 01-05-2010, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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OBAMA IS A LIAR! That pretty much sums him up.
Obama is not a liar... the rest of us just misunderstood!!!!!
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Old 01-05-2010, 05:42 PM
 
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Finally, a media outlet doing what it should have been doing all along: calling out the President and his soaring rhetoric.

I don't see how Obama sleeps at night.



he sleeps just fine, he thinks evryone loves him
I am sure am glad these folks had the plums to call him out!
maybe Obama will call C-span names like he did Fox
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Old 01-05-2010, 05:43 PM
 
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obama is not a liar... The rest of us just misunderstood!!!!!



lol lol lol:d:d:d
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Old 01-05-2010, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Way,Way Up On The Old East Coast
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Default The ' Oh Promise Me Anything " Career Politician !!!

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AP/C-SPAN
TV network uses Obama's own words against him, calling for Congress to open closed-door health care talks and televise them as the president pledged on campaign trail.


FOXNews.com - C-SPAN Challenges Congress to Open Health Care Talks to TV Coverage
Good Evening,

May we agree folks that there are truly no surprises at all regarding these current outrageously feckless actions of the President .

Due to the tremendous "Exofficio" expectations of the office of President of the United States it is absolutely deplorable for BHO to pompously showcase his so called "Pedant As A Great Intellectual" and then so shamelessly and regularly demonstrate such a perverse proclivity to "Lie Like A Trooper" to the American People !

I thought much better of this man in the beginning and was willing to afford him the benefit of the doubt ... but as of late the current President and his Administration appear to be sadly developing into a most "Pernicious Nightmare" with little or no regard for the American People !

If the American People are ever to acheive an unprecedented amount of anger directed towards their many dubious elected "Career Politicians" in Washington ... this without a doubt should be the correct time and the correct incident !

With all the totally unparalled and ominious problems facing this great nation at this particular time in our history ... the absolute last thing we needed was a POTUS whom has apparantly culminated into an habitual liar !

Of course the true miracle will be if this great nation known as America will survive under the onslaught of such a horrendously disingenuous Presidential lack of leadership.

How utterly disgusting !

Thank You / Lamar
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Old 01-05-2010, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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How did you sleep when Bush sent our boys into Iraq under false pretense?
You missed the topic by a mile. Try again. Obama promised the health care plan talks would be on CSPAN. That didn't happen and so he's a bold face liar.
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