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Old 01-07-2010, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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1. I'm sure you are not an Evangelical

2. Hume's quote is evidence that he belittled Buddhism and asked him to turn to Christianity. That isn't debateable

3. Hume denigrated Buddhism by implying that only through Christianity could Tiger get his life back on track because Buddhism doesn't offer the type of redemption that Christianity offers which implies Buddhism doesn't allow one who has sinned to redeem themselves. Anyone who has studied Buddhism knows nothing could be further from the truth.

4. Hume doesn't know anything about Buddhism hence the reason he said: "I don't THINK that faith offers the forgiveness and redemption that is offerred by the Christian faith." Hume made an assumption about Buddhism when not knowing the facts. Why did he choose to make a negative assumption about Buddhism? He could have not addressed Buddhism at all and simply said "I'm a Christian and I believe Christianity can be a great source for someone in Tiger's position" without making any assumptions about Buddhism

5. He is telling Tiger to get his life back on track and to do so, he would need to drop his current faith because it won't allow Tiger to redeem himself. You can't argue Hume said otherwise because he quoted that directly. I fail to see how any logical person can intrepret that as being anything other than a critique of Buddhism.
Without any explicit language that condemns Buddhism, such as "inferior", "false", "wrong", "untrue", "bad", etc. in the statements made by Brit Hume regarding Buddhism, any interpretation otherwise is implicit and subjective. Finding an implied meaning in something someone said, is in the mind of the interpreter and thus is not an absolute. That others do not find any overt, explicit condemnation of Buddhism in Brit Hume's statement is not debatable.
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Old 01-07-2010, 06:54 AM
 
Location: a nation with hope
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Without any explicit language that condemns Buddhism, such as "inferior", "false", "wrong", "untrue", "bad", etc. in the statements made by Brit Hume regarding Buddhism, any interpretation otherwise is implicit and subjective. Finding an implied meaning in something someone said, is in the mind of the interpreter and thus is not an absolute. That others do not find any overt, explicit condemnation of Buddhism in Brit Hume's statement is not debatable.
What I was thinking, too. But you stated it better than I would have.
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Old 01-07-2010, 07:35 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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tough guy eh?

I not a tough guy...Im a Man. and if you have a problem with my family or me then we will talk man to man.
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Old 01-07-2010, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Keonsha, Wisconsin
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I think this comment further indicts Fox as a biased media source that caters to not just conservatives but Evangelicals. I'm a centrist Republican and an admirer of Fox News but I will admit that I am turned off by this comment and it has changed my view of Fox. He is a journalist and for him to belittle a faith that he has little knowledge of in favor of Christianity is ridiculous. This is an embarrassment to Fox.

And before people jump on my case, ask yourself this, if Sanjay Gupta claimed that Dick Cheney's Evangelical Christian faith led to his heart disease because Christianity doesn't espouse peace as well as Hinduism, how would you react? We know how you would react. There would be a thread about this and all the right wing conservatives would be blasting him for it.

All I ask is that you be fair about this. It's pretty obvious his comment was uncalled for regardless if you are an Evangelical or Christian. But of course, the partisan gamesmanship will require that all conservatives disagree with me because they have to protect their "team"

It might be Hume's right to make those type of comments. And Fox is entitled to govern itself but Fox should know that comments like that is going to lose watchers like myself who are conservatives but not necessarily Evangelicals.
I don't believe so riverfan, because for the simple reason that if people like dirt, they'll stay tuned for the next episode, it would be like watching a soap opera, to see what happens tomorrow.
The reason I say this is look how many sponsors fox lost over things beck said, and come to find out, some of the roosters crowing here on city data were bragging of how fox's ratings were up.
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Old 01-07-2010, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Keonsha, Wisconsin
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I not a tough guy...Im a Man. and if you have a problem with my family or me then we will talk man to man.
Most of us don't think you are, but a man can defend his own honor, it is a free country. Common assault and battery is a misdemeanor and usually carried a $250.00 fine. It's like an expensive traffic ticket. I wonder, was brit hume waving a bible in one hand when he said this? Most of those types usually stand on street corners where traffic is extremely heavy and shout out loudly.

I seem to recall this ancient American proverb, it goes something like this:
It is better to remain silent and stupid, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
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Old 01-07-2010, 02:42 PM
 
Location: a nation with hope
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Most of us don't think you are, but a man can defend his own honor, it is a free country. Common assault and battery is a misdemeanor and usually carried a $250.00 fine. It's like an expensive traffic ticket. I wonder, was brit hume waving a bible in one hand when he said this? Most of those types usually stand on street corners where traffic is extremely heavy and shout out loudly.

I seem to recall this ancient American proverb, it goes something like this:
It is better to remain silent and stupid, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
Evidently you didn't personally see or hear Brit Hume for yourself. So you are repeating things that others have said and and using those comments as a launch pad for your own ridicule and criticism. It would be more credible if people didn't comment on things they themselves haven't seen and heard.

That's a good proverb. Worth keeping in mind. Put it on a sticky on your computer screen.
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Old 01-07-2010, 02:44 PM
 
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one of the most hypocrite christians on the planet smh
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Old 01-07-2010, 02:45 PM
 
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Evidently you didn't personally see or hear Brit Hume for yourself. So you are repeating things that others have said and and using those comments as a launch pad for your own ridicule and criticism. It would be more credible if people didn't comment on things they themselves haven't seen and heard.

That's a good proverb. Worth keeping in mind. Put it on a sticky on your computer screen.
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tough guy eh?
this sounds too funny
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Old 01-07-2010, 11:50 PM
 
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Word of advice: when you profess ignorance about a topic (as you did about Jesus) don't go on to demonstrate that ignorance by expounding at length about something you know virtually nothing about.
I guess you accuse me of being ignorant because I don't believe in the same thing you believe in. I was raised Catholic. I went to Catholic School, catechism, mass every Sunday. Don't you tell me I am ignorant. Confessing my sins to a priest on Saturday night. I spent my entire weekends to the Catholic church growing up.

All you religious right wingers are the same. Accusations come easy to you. Pointing the finger at people.

JimBob..
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Old 01-08-2010, 01:39 AM
 
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What an idiot. This whole "my religion is better than yours" is so tiresome. And wow, what a shocker, a Christian who is a right-wing talking head on Faux news is shoving his beliefs down all of the viewers throats.
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