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The IWC ... claimed they wanted info. on the health of the whales, etc. Now they're getting it.
Whaling is not good for the health of the whales. We could have told the IWC that.
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Originally Posted by arctichomesteader
They rarely ever meet the quotas.
The Soviet Union did ignore quotas for years and forged documents. That threw off the management of the whales and whaling. I believe the new whaling proposal would require observers being on the ships.
I'm not surprised about the Soviets forging documents. They're very good at deception and fraud.
I hope it's true about the requirement for observers on the ships.
Whaling is not good for the health of the whales. We could have told the IWC that.
Individuals versus populations. Some whales like the minke are overpopulated and it's having bad effects on their health and on endangered whales they compete with. Killing whales may not seem good for the individual whales killed but the population can benefit. Same as any other wildlife, such as deer.
Furthermore, the IWC was set up to ensure continued and sustainable whaling. The moratorium is just that, a temporary halt, intended to give time to determine whale populations. Anti-whaling countries have stretched it out by demanding more evidence of health of the populations. That info. has trickled in and is no longer a valid excuse. The whaling nations can simply leave the non-binding IWC and do as they wish if pushed too far. Then there's no limits on them.
I think anyone who laughs at the abominable cruelty that is whaling has a couple of screws lose.
Seems that in this day and age there is a whole segment of society who treat people who are concerned about the environmental well being of our planet with Ridicule and scorn,derogatory terms like tree huggers and hippy socialists are your reward for trying to live an environmentally green sustainable lifestyle
Next time you watch this whaling show ask yourself why they are out there doing what they are doing,some of you may not appreciate their efforts and sacrifices but your children or their children might be a little more grateful.
Individuals versus populations. Some whales like the minke are overpopulated and it's having bad effects on their health and on endangered whales they compete with. Killing whales may not seem good for the individual whales killed but the population can benefit. Same as any other wildlife, such as deer.
Furthermore, the IWC was set up to ensure continued and sustainable whaling. The moratorium is just that, a temporary halt, intended to give time to determine whale populations. Anti-whaling countries have stretched it out by demanding more evidence of health of the populations. That info. has trickled in and is no longer a valid excuse. The whaling nations can simply leave the non-binding IWC and do as they wish if pushed too far. Then there's no limits on them.
Whales don't need management, they had been roaming the world's oceans way before there were any humans, I wonder how they survived without our help
Whales don't need management, they had been roaming the world's oceans way before there were any humans, I wonder how they survived without our help
They've been hunted by humans for thousands of years. Seems you forget humans are a part of the environment and food chain, acting as a top predator and check on the population of prey species.
They've been hunted by humans for thousands of years. Seems you forget humans are a part of the environment and food chain, acting as a top predator and check on the population of prey species.
They did not hunt whales before ships were invented, and that was only ten thousand years ago, and even back then they were not suitable for hunting whales. And all the millions of years before that whales lived without human involvement.
Just because humans can kill a species does not meant they should. We don't hunt humans and we frown upon Africans hunting gorillas or chimps or elephants. And why? Because of increased moral awareness among people who lead sophisticated lives.
Individuals versus populations. Some whales like the minke are overpopulated and it's having bad effects on their health and on endangered whales they compete with.
Well, how do you define "overpopulated?" If there are actually too many whales, won't they die off naturally--which is what's been happening for the last few eons? Who gives us as human beings the authority to decide these things?
Well, how do you define "overpopulated?" If there are actually too many whales, won't they die off naturally--which is what's been happening for the last few eons? Who gives us as human beings the authority to decide these things?
My thoughts as well. Natural selection (survival of the fittest) should determine which dies, which survives.
Well, how do you define "overpopulated?" If there are actually too many whales, won't they die off naturally--which is what's been happening for the last few eons? Who gives us as human beings the authority to decide these things?
So you'd rather most of a population dies of starvation, some endangered whales become threatened with extinction, rather than some whales be hunted by humans?
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