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Old 03-29-2013, 07:36 PM
 
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America is the only nation on this planet that argues against human compassion of providing medical care for the poor! How pathetic!
Great. As a liberal, given that you "care" about such matters, I would expect you to start donating at least 10% of your income to indigent healthcare.

That is the problem with liberals- they have great "compassion" for issues, but will not donate a dime of their own money for these causes!

They are the ultimate hypocrites, which is demonstrated by their actions, not by their complaining.
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Old 03-30-2013, 12:21 AM
 
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You don't have a "right" to healthcare.

Someone invested BILLIONS of dollars producing life saving drugs.

Many people have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars becoming surgeons and other medical specialists.

I hear that al gore, john kerry, nancy pelosi and the clintons have a lot of money.....perhaps you can convince some of these leftie millionaires to share their wealth?
In civilized countries all residents have a right to health care. Only someone who is suffering from some far-right conservative mania would think that health care should only be reserved for those with money.
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Old 03-30-2013, 05:50 AM
 
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When did a patient's basic rights to receive and appropriate level of healthcare become solely based on money? When did all of the ethical and moral obligations, the whole Hippocratic Oath, become obsolete? When someone who has become, through no fault of their own, disabled and unable to work or care for themselves, why are they denied any compassion within the healthcare system?
It's always been that way. I do remember when they would let you pay your bill out though.
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Old 03-30-2013, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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Right around the time when landlords and mortgage companies stopped accepting chickens or a basket of apples as payment.

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When did a patient's basic rights to receive and appropriate level of healthcare become solely based on money? When did all of the ethical and moral obligations, the whole Hippocratic Oath, become obsolete? When someone who has become, through no fault of their own, disabled and unable to work or care for themselves, why are they denied any compassion within the healthcare system?
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Old 03-30-2013, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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When did a patient's basic rights to receive and appropriate level of healthcare become solely based on money? When did all of the ethical and moral obligations, the whole Hippocratic Oath, become obsolete? When someone who has become, through no fault of their own, disabled and unable to work or care for themselves, why are they denied any compassion within the healthcare system?
Show me where it says anything about basic med care is based on money? Between using ER and medicaid everyone is given the immediate medical attention they need. of course, those with more money will have the ability to seek out top doctors> give it up, that is life. I do not expect to get the same medical care a milionaire gets and none of us should. This has nothing to do with ethics or the hippovrtic oath.. No those who are disabled, truely disabled and not faking it do get medical care, sometimes pretty close to the best there is.
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Old 03-30-2013, 11:11 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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You don't have a "right" to healthcare.

Someone invested BILLIONS of dollars producing life saving drugs.

Many people have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars becoming surgeons and other medical specialists.

I hear that al gore, john kerry, nancy pelosi and the clintons have a lot of money.....perhaps you can convince some of these leftie millionaires to share their wealth?
Yeah. Let's talk about Big Pharma and where all that money goes. A friend of mine is a VP at a major drug company ~ it sure as hell ain't all going to drug research.

Medicine is big business - the more money you have - the better insurance - the better care you are going to get. That's just the way it is.
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Old 03-30-2013, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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Immediate care and that is it. Meaning you will get some attention if you are in immediate danger but that's it. It's not basic care. Basic care is routine physicals, age appropriate screenings, flu shots and other vaccinations which most uninsured people do not get.

Many a patient goes to the ER and is referred for outpatient follow up outside of the ER. They have no insurance or enough cash to pay so they can't get an appointment for the follow-up. The person then patches up whatever it was that sent them to the ER with an antacid, band aid, tylenol whatever temporarily relieves the problem. Now it's a year later and they are back in the ER and find out that thing was some kind of cancer or other disease that is now in the terminal stage.

They get admitted then. To die and they run up a big bill before they go. That's the way it goes.

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Show me where it says anything about basic med care is based on money? Between using ER and medicaid everyone is given the immediate medical attention they need. of course, those with more money will have the ability to seek out top doctors> give it up, that is life. I do not expect to get the same medical care a milionaire gets and none of us should. This has nothing to do with ethics or the hippovrtic oath.. No those who are disabled, truely disabled and not faking it do get medical care, sometimes pretty close to the best there is.
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Old 03-30-2013, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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In civilized countries all residents have a right to health care. Only someone who is suffering from some far-right conservative mania would think that health care should only be reserved for those with money.
Only a liberal addicted to spending other peoples money thinks some people should work for free and others should receive services for nothing.
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