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Old 03-07-2015, 04:24 PM
 
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Originally Posted by sanspeur View Post
LOL.....Are you really trying to tell me that glaciers and ice are expanding?
If you take a long enough average, yes. On a 1,000 year average they are expanding.

If you look t a shorter average then they aren't.

The short term trend is correct. The long term trend isn't.

 
Old 03-07-2015, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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If you take a long enough average, yes. On a 1,000 year average they are expanding.

If you look t a shorter average then they aren't.

The short term trend is correct. The long term trend isn't.
Now you are saying that science has been measuring global ice for 1,000 years....I'm afraid that you will have to back that statement up.
 
Old 03-07-2015, 04:45 PM
 
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Now you are saying that science has been measuring global ice for 1,000 years....I'm afraid that you will have to back that statement up.
Are you denying the science?

Last edited by ContrarianEcon; 03-07-2015 at 04:56 PM.. Reason: the fun of it.
 
Old 03-07-2015, 04:53 PM
 
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Cold winter, right? No, it was warmer than average

If trends continue, wonder what will happen. . .

evidence of warming?

a fluke?

I know we felt this in Denver, awesome 70 degree days in February!
Gee................... Sounds like a great reason to tax CO2, tax business, reduce US economic output, increase unemployment, increase consumer costs, and to make Al Gore more rich.

Wonderful!


Who gets wealthy and who gets economically punished by an earthquake in the US???!!!
 
Old 03-07-2015, 05:05 PM
 
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The term shouldn't be misused by lay people for every cold snap. However, it should be used when the polar vortex is involved.

Was it involved in this recent severe cold weather in early 2015 in parts of the US? Yes.
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Revisiting the evidence linking Arctic amplification to extreme weather in mid-latitudes
Elizabeth A. Barnes (2013)
GEOPHYSICAL RESEARCH LETTERS, VOL. 40, 1–6, doi:10.1002/grl.50880, 2013
Just reinforces the paper I posted, so thanks.

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Old 03-07-2015, 05:13 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Originally Posted by Ceist View Post
He spent his life as a TV weatherman talking head.

His ignorant views are not those of the American Meteorological Society:

2012 AMS Information Statement on Climate Change
"It is clear from extensive scientific evidence that the dominant cause of the rapid change in climate of the past half century is human-induced increases in the amount of atmospheric greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide (CO2), chlorofluorocarbons, methane, and nitrous oxide. The most important of these over the long term is CO2, whose concentration in the atmosphere is rising principally as a result of fossil-fuel combustion and deforestation."
or any other mainstream science organisation worldwide.
Your uniformed position refuted here:
Weather Channel Founder Explains the History of the Global Warming Hoax
 
Old 03-07-2015, 05:44 PM
 
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The term shouldn't be misused by lay people for every cold snap. However, it should be used when the polar vortex is involved.

Was it involved in this recent extreme weather in early 2015 in the US? Yes.


Just reinforces the paper I posted, so thanks.

The recent weather in the U.S. was "Siberian Express", not polar vortex.

and...

From Barnes 2013: We conclude that the mechanism put forth by previous studies [e.g., Francis and Vavrus,2012; Liu et al.,2012], that amplified polar warming has led to the increased occurrence of slow-moving weather patterns and blocking episodes, appears unsupported by the observations.
 
Old 03-07-2015, 05:49 PM
 
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The Tea Party website?

Your sadly misinformed position is refuted by every major science organisation worldwide and all the evidence.
 
Old 03-07-2015, 05:55 PM
 
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No one should give two shakes about this global warming malarky.. We got real problems to deal with, so no need to worry about weather fairy stories. If it does get warmer, add a couple feet to the flood walls, for crying out loud.
 
Old 03-07-2015, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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