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Old 03-08-2015, 10:14 AM
 
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The AGW crowd has done a great job of welding "human activity" to "climate change" hasn't it?

Weather or not the two are connected. My fear is that the AGW scientists will decide to deliberately monkey with the climate to "correct the damage we have done" and really mess up the ebb and flow of the warming and cooling.

There's also the tax angle...but if the AGW crowd feels guilty they can contribute all the money they wish to the brokers in charge. Dunno where they will spend it to fix the climate, maybe on more private jets?

 
Old 03-08-2015, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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Originally Posted by tonyandclaire89 View Post
Weekend freeze Loom for Gulf Coast

AccuWeather.com - Weather Blogs - Weather News (Weather News - AccuWeather.com - broken link)

Death toll rises to 22 in UK's biggest freeze for 30 years

Weather-related death toll rises to 22 as Britain braces for coldest night yet - Times Online

Wind chill may drop below zero as coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas

Bitter Cold Is Just Beginning | NBC Dallas-Fort Worth

All-Time record snowfall Burlington, VT

All-time record snowfall in Burlington | NECN


The heaviest snowfall in almost 50 years is hitting parts of Britain as Arctic weather brought nationwide chaos.

Britain braced for heaviest snowfall in 50 years - Telegraph


Pensioners burn books for warmth

Pensioners burn books for warmth | Metro.co.uk


Seoul buried in heaviest snowfall in 70 years

Seoul buried in heaviest snowfall in 70 years - Yahoo! News (Yahoo! - broken link)

Midwest Sees Near-Record Lows, Snow By The Foot

Midwest Sees Near-Record Lows In Negative Double Digits, Snow By The Foot - cbs2chicago.com (http://cbs2chicago.com/national/midw...2.1405658.html - broken link)


Feeling cold? We're at 30 below normal

Feeling cold? We're at 30 below normal | desmoinesregister.com | The Des Moines Register

Floridians prepare for record low temps

WSVN-TV - Floridians prepare for record low temps

Chill Map

http://vortex.plymouth.edu/uschill.gif


The cold weather packing hospitals

The cold weather packing hospitals | weather, cold, hospitals - Top Story - CBS Channel 12 News

I'll lay you odds that by the time the AGW cultists are done "adjusting" the data, this will be the warmest winter on record.
 
Old 03-08-2015, 10:38 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Ivorytickler View Post
Global warming changes weather patterns. Some areas will be colder, some snowier, some warmer. What's the mystery here?
It's the same mystery that occurs every other time people who don't have the slightest clue refuse to accept that things could ever be that complicated.
 
Old 03-08-2015, 10:39 AM
 
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But I'm not saying it isn't happening. I'm saying it is a good idea as it beats the alternative.
nope.
Yes they are, they need to change their tune. They need to stop saying it isn't happening and start saying it is a good idea.
Okay, what on Earth makes you think it's a good idea when every serious scientific study on the matter says it isn't?

Is this the new pro-oil talking point?
 
Old 03-08-2015, 10:59 AM
 
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Okay, what on Earth makes you think it's a good idea when every serious scientific study on the matter says it isn't?

Is this the new pro-oil talking point?
It's not the newest talking point at all.
It's one of the more absurd ones, however.
 
Old 03-08-2015, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Originally Posted by tonyandclaire89 View Post
Weekend freeze Loom for Gulf Coast

AccuWeather.com - Weather Blogs - Weather News (Weather News - AccuWeather.com - broken link)

Death toll rises to 22 in UK's biggest freeze for 30 years

Weather-related death toll rises to 22 as Britain braces for coldest night yet - Times Online

Wind chill may drop below zero as coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas

Bitter Cold Is Just Beginning | NBC Dallas-Fort Worth

All-Time record snowfall Burlington, VT

All-time record snowfall in Burlington | NECN


The heaviest snowfall in almost 50 years is hitting parts of Britain as Arctic weather brought nationwide chaos.

Britain braced for heaviest snowfall in 50 years - Telegraph


Pensioners burn books for warmth

Pensioners burn books for warmth | Metro.co.uk


Seoul buried in heaviest snowfall in 70 years

Seoul buried in heaviest snowfall in 70 years - Yahoo! News (Yahoo! - broken link)

Midwest Sees Near-Record Lows, Snow By The Foot

Midwest Sees Near-Record Lows In Negative Double Digits, Snow By The Foot - cbs2chicago.com (http://cbs2chicago.com/national/midw...2.1405658.html - broken link)


Feeling cold? We're at 30 below normal

Feeling cold? We're at 30 below normal | desmoinesregister.com | The Des Moines Register

Floridians prepare for record low temps

WSVN-TV - Floridians prepare for record low temps

Chill Map

http://vortex.plymouth.edu/uschill.gif


The cold weather packing hospitals

The cold weather packing hospitals | weather, cold, hospitals - Top Story - CBS Channel 12 News
Nevertheless this winter in the U. S. has been warmer than average.

Cold winter, right? No, it was warmer than average
 
Old 03-08-2015, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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If you think it's nothing to worry about then, yeah, you pretty much know nothing about climate science. Naively saying "the climates changed for hundreds of millions of years" means nothing unless you have a clue how it changed in the past, why it's different now due to human activities and what the effects are likely to be based on what has happened in the past with abrupt rapid climate changes, rather than the slow changes that take 1000's of years.

A tip for you: Learn something about the science and the evidence before dismissing it so casually.
I am not worried about the climate because I can't do anything to stop it. Neither can you or anyone else.

Saying that the climate has been changing for hundreds of millions of years is not naive at all... it's a fact. Something you should read more about! Your claim about the climate being different now due to human activities is just that... a claim, not fact.

I have been reading and learning about science since the mid-1970s...



 
Old 03-08-2015, 12:50 PM
 
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^Reading books isn't the same as understanding them OR the issue.

Nobody is claiming that climate doesn't change.

One of the most basic errors that deniers always make is that science-believers don't accept that climate changes naturally.

It has to stop.
 
Old 03-08-2015, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Originally Posted by Fleet View Post
I am saying it's the left-wing who run around yelling:

- Global warming.
- Climate change.
- Devastating sea level rises may happen.
- Co2 levels rising rapidly.
- Ice caps melting.
Follow the money. The alarmists fall into two camps; Those that are making a fortune from the hoax and those who are too dumb to make a fortune from the hoax.
 
Old 03-08-2015, 01:00 PM
 
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Follow the money. The alarmists fall into two camps; Those that are making a fortune from the hoax and those who are too dumb to make a fortune from the hoax.
Bingo.

Cult followers are just pathetic. The leaders are fraudsters stealing taxpayer money.
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