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Old 01-08-2010, 11:00 AM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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what if you were to get a sympathetic president who wanted them released?
He has already screwed the NYC trial up.

As a former attorney he should have known better to state they are guilty and will be sentence to death before the trial.

He has tainted the trial.

And do not forget, he has said he will be totally responsible from here on in.

I am willing to give him a shot at this, but, if he screws up he will take the entire blame and be willing to resign if he in fact allows us to be attacked again.
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Old 01-08-2010, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Florida
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what if you were to get a sympathetic president who wanted them released?
We already had Bush who released 650 of them.
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Old 01-08-2010, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Regardless of how bloodthirsty and revenge driven many of you are, we are still a nation of LAW and these people should not be treated ANY differently than any other criminal. NOT giving them any special status such as warrior or terrorist or Jihadist or special treatment harms them almost as bad for their cause as completely ignoring them. They are spoiled brats throwing a very elaborate temper tantrum. Ignoring then, no matter how irritating they are, will eventually shut them up.

I greatly disagree with this administration’s policy on both Afghanistan and Iraq. We do not need to be involved in either country because our current policy is costing us far more then any potential benefit. Eventually some pipeline company is going to have to pay protection money to every local chieftain whose territory the line crosses and the Iraqi’s will sell oil to the highest bidder. We do not need to spend any more of our troops or fortune to achieve these inevitable outcomes.
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Old 01-08-2010, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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S-D 90 - Donating a bullet is symbolic at best and grandstanding at worst.

Would YOU be willing to pull the trigger? Are YOU willing to become a killer to satisfy your need for revenge or quench your fear? Just why and what scares you so much?
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Old 01-08-2010, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Only partisan hacks care who sentences them. What does it matter? Who sentenced the shue bomber? He is locked up 23 hrs per day every day and will never be released. Who cares who sentenced him? I am tired of all the petty bickering about how they should be labeled or what kind of court should be used.
Someone will have to sentence them. Who do you think should?
Because when you name who sentences them you also would give a hint as to how they should be tried. When you say how they should be tried you then would have to define if they are a POW Civilian or enemy combatant.
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Old 01-08-2010, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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S-D 90 - Donating a bullet is symbolic at best and grandstanding at worst.

Would YOU be willing to pull the trigger? Are YOU willing to become a killer to satisfy your need for revenge or quench your fear? Just why and what scares you so much?
It becomes easier when I think that my mother, wife, or kids could have been in the row behind the suicide bomber.
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Old 01-08-2010, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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Regardless of how bloodthirsty and revenge driven many of you are, we are still a nation of LAW and these people should not be treated ANY differently than any other criminal.
1. It is not bloodthirsty - it's safety. It's called removing the enemy before they destroy us.

2. Those who are not citizens are not subject to our laws. There should be no trials, no courts, no lawyers.
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Old 01-08-2010, 12:08 PM
 
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2. Those who are not citizens are not subject to our laws. There should be no trials, no courts, no lawyers.
So wait a minute, if a foreign person (not a terrorist) from let's Germany comes here & breaks the law. So we wouldn't prosecute them under our court system, because technically he isn't a US citizen. If I were to go abroad to another country, I would not be under the US court system but under there's. So your above statement is inaccurate, but again I see both sides of the argument regarding the situation with terrorist.
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Old 01-08-2010, 12:17 PM
 
Location: a nation with hope
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Right now as it stands the process is contradictory. Sometimes we treat them one way, sometimes another. For example, Hasan (Ft. Hood shooter) is being tried differently. Yet, he's a terrorist.

Underwear bomber will be tried in our court system. Don't be surprised if his lawyer pleads mental instability /insanity (no kidding!) and he gets a lighter sentence. And then he'll have access to TV, the internet, libraries, physical exercise...all of it. Maybe - not maybe -- definitely even a special diet and a prayer rug. And visitors. Let's not forget the visitors.
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Old 01-08-2010, 12:28 PM
 
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Basically it better than clinton who thought that the first world trade attack was just a new york criminal violation. Luckily out forftehrs didn't feel that pearl harbor was a atck on the sate of hawai. In fact many of our military intallations were attack around the world just like peral harbor;no difference as its a idelogy war on now the world is to be governed really.By radical islamic law or western democracy.
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