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View Poll Results: Should the United States start using racial / ethnic profiling?
Yes - The time may have come 31 65.96%
No - Absolutely not 15 31.91%
Undecided at this time 1 2.13%
Voters: 47. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-09-2010, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I guess Richard Reid doesn't count either since he's a British citizen. There go those darn facts gettin' in the way again. Pesky facts. Maybe we should profile them.....

 
Old 01-09-2010, 03:49 PM
 
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Since we seem to be limiting the discussion to airliner terrorism and the need to profile only people from the middle east, here is how I count it. 3 Middle Easterners used the planes themselves as devices of terror, successfully. 1 British man used a shoe bomb, failed. 1 Nigerian used an underwear bomb, failed.

So 3 middle easterners to 2 from elsewhere. I'm not sure added security or profiling would have prevented the 3 middle easterners on 9/11 from achieving their goal. They didn't come armed with devices, just the evil lurking inside their hearts and minds.

What other events on board an aircraft, involving some sort of bomb or use of the airplane that could cause the promised destruction of the aircraft that have happened and what was race/ethnic group was the terrorist? I am not including verbal threats, as these are flying out of people's mouth at a high rate, and there doesn't seem to be any racial/ethnic pattern there.

At this point, profiling seems like using a sledgehammer to swat a fly. Once we have a mass casualty event of epic proportions, I'd be the first to say no holds barred, sorry if we sweep up innocents along with the potentially guilty. It isn't a pretty thing to say, but that is how it usually goes, and I am fine with that. War or what it takes to survive when attacked isn't pretty, either.

Profiling in the way suggested here seems like nothing more than a useless act designed to make people feel better by casting too large a net due to too few events, that will result in nothing more than one group of people feeling safer for no good reason, and another group feeling targeted for no good reason.
 
Old 01-09-2010, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Seeing how "a majority" of terrorists are from the middle east and ARE RELIGIOUS,.
There's an idea. Figure everybody is dangerous in proportion to how religious they are, and profile for that.
 
Old 01-09-2010, 08:22 PM
 
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There's an idea. Figure everybody is dangerous in proportion to how religious they are, and profile for that.
That means us atheists are off the hook
 
Old 01-09-2010, 08:37 PM
 
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No...we can't use profiling. I know most suicidal terrorists these days DO seem to be Middle Eastern muslim males....but there's always the possibility the next spectacular outrage will be the work of an elderly Japanese female...or a group of disgruntled Amish farmers....or even a nun. You never can tell.

I say we take the high road. I know we're all upset about 9-11...but it COULD have been Mormons who did it...no one really convinced me. I fully realize that some day, we may all wake up to find that instead of a pair of skyscrapers being blown up, we may very well find that this time, Denver has simply been 'obliterated'...or maybe Cincinnati or Omaha. And that will be sad, of course...and we'll all be upset, of course...but at least we'll be able to look each other in the eye, because we didn't use profiling.

I don't think we should watch our airports or port cities, either...not when any terrorist with half a brain could simply walk in, over one of our borders....(borders which we've repeatedly announced that we 'can't possibly control').

No profiling...even if it costs us a city or two. Let's do the right thing.
 
Old 01-09-2010, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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When it comes to airline terrorism - they have all been men of Middle Eastern descent.
You serious? Last time I checked, Nigeria was in Africa.
 
Old 01-09-2010, 08:41 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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When it comes to airline terrorism - they have all been men of Middle Eastern descent.

Why cannot people see this?

Yes, we need to profile every middle eastern person including woman as they will be smart enough to switch to using women once they know we are ahead of them.

Time to do the right thing and protect ourselves.
 
Old 01-09-2010, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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Why cannot people see this?

Yes, we need to profile every middle eastern person including woman as they will be smart enough to switch to using women once they know we are ahead of them.

Time to do the right thing and protect ourselves.
You ever seen a Chechen?
 
Old 01-09-2010, 08:54 PM
 
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Profiling is a perfectly good tool. There's no reason not to use it.
 
Old 01-09-2010, 08:57 PM
 
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I'd like to expound on a previous poster....I believe we should start profiling 6'4" Swedes with blond hair and blue eyes, also, we should check out the 72 year old grandmother from Japan....these are the people that have blown up the World Trade Center, Pentagon, etc, etc, etc..........Oh wait, I forgot, 9-11 was just a Republican hoax according to some.......read some of the responses on here regarding profiling and you can see that this country may be doomed if we don't do something soon.....
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