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Originally Posted by Wayland Woman You've got to be kidding. Michigan doesn't even have a problem with illegal immigrants, not like the southern and western states.
And if you're talking about unions speaking up about changing the laws to give workers here on LEGAL work visas the same rights and protections as American workers, that actually helps American workers. As long as businesses can bring immigrants in on temporary work visas to work at a lesser pay than American workers, and without the same work place benefits or safety protections, that hurts American workers. It also encourages MORE immigration because it provides jobs that wouldn't be there if employers had to give them the same work place protections and pay as American workers. No union is trying to help ILLEGAL immigrants. Get your facts straight.
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Originally Posted by dcsldcd
See this is how the left thinks. They believe a LEGAL citizen is better off in the welfare or unemployment line than working
Get your facts straight. SEIU was on TV bragging that most of their employees are illegal immigrants and they get the same benefits. You don't really think a union will give a legal worker benefits and they illegal working beside them nothing. Geezeee! SEIU want s the illegal immigrants because they will sign up without thought which puts mone in the unions pockets.
SEIU doesn't have "employees", they have members. If one area of the country has a lot of illegal immigrants (rather than those here on legal work visas) working at a particular place who the heck's fault is that? Why don't you put the blame where it really belongs...on the shoulders of the employers who hire illegal aliens? If they didn't hire them they wouldn't be in this country in the first place. And don't tell me they don't know they are hiring illegals, most do and seek them out on purpose. Just like employers have done throughout the history of mankind, they abuse the workers they can get away with abusing and right now that is illegals aliens from Mexico. Unscrupulous employers are hiding behind the immigration laws to circumvent worker protections and race to the bottom to see who can pay the lowest wages in the world. How does that help America or the unions?
We're getting off the OP topic here. If you want to talk unions come over to the 'union' thread at:
(CNSNews.com) - Every “green job” created with government money in Spain over the last eight years came at the cost of 2.2 regular jobs, and only one in 10 of the newly created green jobs became a permanent job, says a new study released this month. The study draws parallels with the green jobs programs of the Obama administration.
CNSNews.com - Green Stimulus Money Costs More Jobs Than It Creates, Study Shows (http://www.cnsnews.com/Public/Content/Article.aspx?rsrcid=46453 - broken link)
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2. Optimistically treating European Commission partially funded data1, we find that for every renewable energy job that the State manages to finance, Spain’s experience cited by President Obama as a model reveals with high confidence, by two different methods, that the U.S. should expect a loss of at least 2.2 jobs on average, or about 9 jobs lost for every 4 created, to which we have to add those jobs that non-subsidized investments with the same resources would have created.
11. These costs do not appear to be unique to Spain’s approach but instead are largely inherent in schemes to promote renewable energy sources.
"that all of the parts for green technology are still going to made overseas". Bingo. High government regulations, and union demands will cause manufacturers to move these jobs overseas just like all the other manufacuring jobs that are now overseas.
Do you ever post in a thread without injecting the "right wing" label to someone when their views differ from yours?
Nope, not too often, but it's just a code word. Something short and sweet and easy to type that still identifies fairly clearly the group I mean to refer to. I use "whackjobs" a lot too. Same sort of thing. If you have some suggestions for better short-names, I'd be happy to consider them.
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