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Old 01-10-2010, 03:29 PM
 
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"As society evolves, we progress from savage to becoming increasingly civil."

I would surmise that you are new here and have not read many of the posts on this forum.
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Old 01-10-2010, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Northern Wi
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This shows you how many States "Do Not Want The Federal Government Interfering"

Tenth Amendment Center | 10th Amendment Resolutions
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Old 01-10-2010, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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They probably said the same tired thing about Medicare or Medicaid and SS.. and we still have it today..

Nice try though..
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Old 01-10-2010, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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This shows you how many States "Do Not Want The Federal Government Interfering"

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Thanks for the link. 38 states..that's a pretty big number, bigger than what I would have thought.
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Old 01-10-2010, 04:16 PM
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Location: Wisconsin
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Wonder why public education, public highways, public safety police and fire, public parks, public subsidies for agriculture, public bailouts of banks and wall street, etc. have not led to the destruction of the constitution but health care for the citizens of the U.S. will destroy this country? I can't get over how easily the insurance company and the politicians and talking heads they have bought have been able to convince people to be against their own best interest. Well, like they say, there is one born every minute and two to take them.
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Old 01-10-2010, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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Wonder why public education, public highways, public safety police and fire, public parks, public subsidies for agriculture, public bailouts of banks and wall street, etc. have not led to the destruction of the constitution but health care for the citizens of the U.S. will destroy this country? I can't get over how easily the insurance company and the politicians and talking heads they have bought have been able to convince people to be against their own best interest. Well, like they say, there is one born every minute and two to take them.

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Old 01-10-2010, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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People invent arguments that derive from a call to authority because they don't have the arguments to give themselves. A is wrong because it's unconstitutional, B is wrong because it's against God, C because it's against nature...the argument is attempted to gain legitimacy because the arguer assigns what they think a diffuse authority would think that cannot make any claim in itself (argumentum ad verecundiam). Rinse and repeat numbers of times a day till people get tired of it and just want it done (argumentum ad nauseam).

Any veracity of the claims have been gone a long time ago, and been argued to death repeatedly.
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