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Powell called them out on this type of behavior too, now that I think about it.
I notice they viciously attack anybody who doesn't fall in line. I also don't see how they think this type of attitude will bring Indies into the fold come election time.
Hmm, read any good polls lately?
Independents have dumped the Democrats in record numbers.
I can't wait to see how the left tries to rehash "hope and change" in the next ten months since everything they've tried this last year has been a cataclysmic failure.
I'm not a Republican. But it seems like the neo-cons want everyone to believe in fundamentalist Christianity, be opposed to global warming and other science that thwarts the unfettered practice of capitalism, be opposed to any government funding beyond the military, be opposed to helping people down on their luck, etc.
What has the Republicans done to allow you to make this statement? Do you want to list ONE thing to backup this claim?
I keep hearing liberals complain about christianity from the right, but nothing requires us to be religious at all..
I said I'm not a Republican. I can't speak for them. I would guess a moderate Republican would be open to people of all religions, and to people of no religion. A moderate Republican would not see a divide between Reupblicanism and science. Thinking back to my father, who was a politician, a mod. Repub is in favor of government in some situations. For example, my dad saw our community's public recreation center and said "I wish we could have something like that". He saw it as a use of government money for the public good.
So your definition is a moderate republican is open to all religions or no religions. I see that as also a conservative value.
Not sure what you mean they would see a divide between republic ism and science can you elaborate. So a moderate Republican is in favor of community centers. I think most conservative republicans are in favor of a community center.
But an interesting list you have. I would think it would be hard for you to say if someone is a moderate or conservative republican
So by your definition a Moderate republican must be pro choice and pro gay marriage.
Seem you define a moderate republican as a liberal on social issues and conservative on fiscal issues
I don't think I said they must be pro choice or pro same sex union, I think it is more likely. Otherwise, you are correct. I think that is the generally accepted definition.
Then I would have to say there are very few Moderate republicans. Olivia snow would be one i believe she is pro choice. I think if you are pro choice they are more likely going to be a democrat
I certainly do not think that there are very few Moderate Republicans, actually I think there are a great many, it's just that they have been, essentially, ousted by the current controlling faction of the Party. That is to the detriment of the Party and the American people.
I certainly do not think that there are very few Moderate Republicans, actually I think there are a great many, it's just that they have been, essentially, ousted by the current controlling faction of the Party. That is to the detriment of the Party and the American people.
it is difficult to be a pro choice republican. Are you speaking on grass roots or actual major politicla players that have bene ousted
So your definition is a moderate republican is open to all religions or no religions. I see that as also a conservative value.
Not sure what you mean they would see a divide between republic ism and science can you elaborate. So a moderate Republican is in favor of community centers. I think most conservative republicans are in favor of a community center.
But an interesting list you have. I would think it would be hard for you to say if someone is a moderate or conservative republican
In theory, a Repub should be open to all religions or no religion. However, in practice, it seems one must be a conservative Christian, or maybe a Catholic, to be a Repub these days. Just read the posts about Muslims, and look at who tends toward Repubs and who towards the Dem party on those threads. Many "mainline Protestant" churches are pro-choice and pro-gay rights. Many Repubs are against these concepts.
The divide between Republicanism and science is that many Repubs want to believe that global warming, climate change, whatever you want to call it is a "hoax", many want to believe that God created the world in 7 days; many are against stem-cell research, etc. etc, etc.
Don't dump on my deceased father or me about community centers. It was just an example. Many Repubs on this forum don't even want public schools, let alone public recreation centers. Many on this forum feel people should pay for everything out of pocket, or go without, including police protection, fire protection, and the like.
Independents have dumped the Democrats in record numbers.
I can't wait to see how the left tries to rehash "hope and change" in the next ten months since everything they've tried this last year has been a cataclysmic failure.
I heard on 60 minutes last night that McCain had originally wanted Lieberman for his running mate but the Republicans were angry. We all know how that election came out when he chose a "hard line" Republican as his running mate instead.
Maybe some Independents are looking to the Republicans but the Republican party is about exclusion. This exclusiveness eliminates Independents as well as moderates. This attitude, will make them extinct after all the closed minded, white, old, fundamentalist, anti-science, men die off.
One example:
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Lott is known only for racist remarks he made in 2002 suggesting the nation would be better off if segregation were still legal. And the party's choice to bring Lott back to the national stage suggests they're not so bothered about the fact that he's considered a racist.
moderate Republicans as well as moderate Democrats mean something different to everyone.
I consider myself moderate: I do not preach Christianity like Katiana thinks all Republicans do, I am not anti-gay, non totally anti-abortion and I beleive the government needs to exist and yes, control some things. I am fiscally conservative, socially moderate believe in helping others if they truely can not help themselves...I am not a racist like so many liberals are. I believe everyone does have a right to believe the way they want, whether I agree with them or not. I also believe I have a right to my beliefs.
I also believe in every attempt to keep our country safe. I do not spout that all Muslims are bad or out to ruin our country but do I totally trust them, in all fairness until I get to know them, NO?? As for standing up to socialism, no one cannot be a moderate anything and stand up to socialism. It is an extremist view. Only the most liberals of liberals can believe in it..
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