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Old 01-10-2010, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Well now it appears that Brown may have pulled ahead of Coakley which could make passage of the health care act necessary sooner than the Dems had thought would be necessary. Politico says that they stand at 48% for Brown and 47% for Coakley. At the beginning of this week Rasmussen had her ahead by about 9 points so it appears that promising independents he would vote against the health care bill has caused a number of them to switch to him. The Boston Globe thinks she is still ahead. I will check Rasmussen tomorrow morning hoping to find Poitico right.

Oh, wait a minute. Reid won't seat Brown immediately like he did the clown form Minnesota. He had to have old Al's vote to get 60 and Brown would take one away. Would Harry Reid do such a dishonest thing?

Poll: Scott Brown ahead of Martha Coakley by 1 point - The Scorecard - POLITICO.com
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Old 01-10-2010, 11:49 PM
 
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Well now it appears that Brown may have pulled ahead of Coakley which could make passage of the health care act necessary sooner than the Dems had thought would be necessary. Politico says that they stand at 48% for Brown and 47% for Coakley. At the beginning of this week Rasmussen had her ahead by about 9 points so it appears that promising independents he would vote against the health care bill has caused a number of them to switch to him. The Boston Globe thinks she is still ahead. I will check Rasmussen tomorrow morning hoping to find Poitico right.

Oh, wait a minute. Reid won't seat Brown immediately like he did the clown form Minnesota. He had to have old Al's vote to get 60 and Brown would take one away. Would Harry Reid do such a dishonest thing?

Poll: Scott Brown ahead of Martha Coakley by 1 point - The Scorecard - POLITICO.com
Oh you bet he will if he can!
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Old 01-11-2010, 07:59 AM
 
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Well now it appears that Brown may have pulled ahead of Coakley which could make passage of the health care act necessary sooner than the Dems had thought would be necessary. Politico says that they stand at 48% for Brown and 47% for Coakley. At the beginning of this week Rasmussen had her ahead by about 9 points so it appears that promising independents he would vote against the health care bill has caused a number of them to switch to him. The Boston Globe thinks she is still ahead. I will check Rasmussen tomorrow morning hoping to find Poitico right.

Oh, wait a minute. Reid won't seat Brown immediately like he did the clown form Minnesota. He had to have old Al's vote to get 60 and Brown would take one away. Would Harry Reid do such a dishonest thing?

Poll: Scott Brown ahead of Martha Coakley by 1 point - The Scorecard - POLITICO.com
I think Brown will make it a close race but he won't win. It would be a political earthquake if he did. Whether Reid would seat Brown is beside the point. A Brown victory would so unnerve fence-sitting Democrats on the health care bill that Pelosi could not get the necessary votes to pass the compromise she and Reid will cook up.
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:03 AM
 
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I think Brown will make it a close race but he won't win. It would be a political earthquake if he did. Whether Reid would seat Brown is beside the point. A Brown victory would so unnerve fence-sitting Democrats on the health care bill that Pelosi could not get the necessary votes to pass the compromise she and Reid will cook up.
Brown may not win, who knows, but you are correct when you say his victory would cause a political earthquake. Mass. has not sent a Republican to the Senate since 1972. I look forward to the outcome of this election. Brown's victory would make a huge statement to Democrats.
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:05 AM
 
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Sen. Judd Gregg was on CNBC this morning. He made the point that even in Brown wins the Dems will find a way to keep from certifying his election long enough to push Obamacare through.

(An alternate thought - Brown helping defeat Healthcare could be the best thing that could happen to the Obama administration.)
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:34 AM
 
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Even if he wins and they won't certify him, how did they get the 60 votes before? Kennedy was not there to vote. Who voted in Kennedy's place, for this to matter.
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:45 AM
 
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Even if he wins and they won't certify him, how did they get the 60 votes before? Kennedy was not there to vote. Who voted in Kennedy's place, for this to matter.

There is an acting senator right now, until the election. He's a democrat.
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:46 AM
 
Location: NY
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Even if he wins and they won't certify him, how did they get the 60 votes before? Kennedy was not there to vote. Who voted in Kennedy's place, for this to matter.
The governor appointed Paul Kirk, a Kennedy crony, to fill in for Kennedy until the special election takes place.
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Old 01-11-2010, 09:15 AM
 
Location: The South
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The governor appointed Paul Kirk, a Kennedy crony, to fill in for Kennedy until the special election takes place.
. . . after the state legislature changed a law to allow for the appointment. They had first changed it in case John Kerry won so that a Republican could not be appointed. This time they changed it so a Democrat could be appointed. Very flexible laws in MA, you know (sways whichever way the law benefits the Democrat).
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Old 01-11-2010, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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I think Brown will make it a close race but he won't win. It would be a political earthquake if he did. Whether Reid would seat Brown is beside the point. A Brown victory would so unnerve fence-sitting Democrats on the health care bill that Pelosi could not get the necessary votes to pass the compromise she and Reid will cook up.
According to Politico Brown has a 2 - 1 advantage, among independents, over Coakley and 51% or registered voters in Mass are independents. It appears to me that this poll may well be very near what the outcome will be.

In a few minutes I will see what Rasmussen says about this one and they go with probably voters only. i say this because a number of our members keep talking about how using only probably voters is only good when you are near an election. Since this one is January 19 it appears that if these people are right Rasmussen may be right on.
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