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View Poll Results: What is the main reason you would marry someone?
Companionship 66 44.59%
Financial security 10 6.76%
Physical attraction 3 2.03%
Romance 8 5.41%
To have children 21 14.19%
Other 40 27.03%
Voters: 148. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-14-2010, 02:28 PM
 
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They get married for many reasons: companionship, physical attraction, financial protection, to make a commitment. . . . Many even get married, and stay married, because of love.

Prop. 8 backers' procreation argument doesn't ring true - latimes.com
I didn't vote because I didn't see my choice there:

To reap the legal benefits.



All the things on the list of choices occur just as easily without marriage.
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:30 PM
 
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Unless the women were marrying each other, the point falls flat. I'm well aware of the existence of polygamy in some cultures.... Talk to me when you find the culture that had a polygamist relationship with 4 men all married to each other.
The point is that there is a long history of same-sex unions around the world.

History of same-sex unions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:31 PM
 
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I didn't vote because I didn't see my choice there:

To reap the legal benefits.
That's why I included an option that says "Other".
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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I didn't vote because I didn't see my choice there:

To reap the legal benefits.



All the things on the list of choices occur just as easily without marriage.
Pretty much how I feel.

A relationship is to foster love and companionship (and hopefully lots of physical attraction and interaction ).

A marriage is a legal contract with privileges, rights, and responsibilities for a couple (who are hopefully) in a long term relationship.
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:35 PM
 
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My point was that in legal terms of marriage "love" has nothing to do with it and can in no way be quantified. So for gays to try to claim they should be allowed to marry because their "love" is the same as a hetero couple's doesn't work as far as I'm concerned.
Opposite-sex couples can marry for just about any reason they want, including "love".

What your side has to prove is that allowing same-sex marriage will somehow harm society or provide no social benefit. So far, the lawyer representing your view is having a tough time doing that:

The lawyer, Charles J. Cooper, has studied the matter deeply, and his erudite briefs are steeped in history. He cannot have been blindsided by the question Judge Vaughn R. Walker asked him: What would be the harm of permitting gay men and lesbians to marry?

“Your honor, my answer is: I don’t know,” Mr. Cooper said. “I don’t know.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/27/us/27bar.html
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:38 PM
 
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Big dowry?
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Old 01-15-2010, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Springfield VA
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This is one area where I don't envy heterosexuals. For gay guys, there's a lot less pressure to be in a relationship. I think a lot of straight guys get married just because society expects them to, and they see the majority of their friends and family in married relationships, which then makes then feel strange or highlights feelings of loneliness if they're not married or in a long-term relationship.

Just an observation.
I can see that. I don't envy straight guys on that one either. Now that I"m in the DC area there's just no need to settle down. When I was in a smaller city if you found a nice boy you better grab him and stake your claim. Now there's no rush like the song says boys are like buses miss one next 15 another's one coming. Maybe that idea is better all around. No pressure to get married just marry when you feel like it versus because society tells you to. Of course some argue that people wait too long to get married as it is, particularly in career obsessed cities like DC which has the lowest marriage rate in the country. Then again DC is on its way to getting gay marriage which is ironic in a place that puts more value on career than family it seems.
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Old 01-30-2010, 10:12 AM
 
Location: south coast near Vancouver
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Rhett_Butler said, "My point was that in legal terms of marriage "love" has nothing to do with it and can in no way be quantified. So for gays to try to claim they should be allowed to marry because their "love" is the same as a hetero couple's doesn't work as far as I'm concerned."

Lol, stay away from Canada, then. Let's lok at some figures, shall we? In Canada, gay marriage has been in effect for about 6 years . In that time there have been over 10,000 marriages. In that that time the number of divorces among gays have been......................2.

-Doug of thosemeninlove

As for love, I would die if necessary, for Bill and he I.

"Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends." John 15:13

In this case each other; we are each others' best friend as well as true love. We celebrated being together (monogamous) for 20 years this last December.

...anything you'd like to know Rhett? We'll be happy to answer.

kindly, -Doug of thosemeninlove
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Old 01-30-2010, 01:04 PM
 
Location: south coast near Vancouver
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...scuse typos - still getting familiar with the site and edit functions. D'oh!
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Old 01-30-2010, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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The only benefits to being married are financial. All the rest of the things listed can be had without being married.
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