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Old 01-14-2010, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Does anyone not see a problem with this massive boondoggle of a health care plan being rammed down our throats by a large body of people who will not be subject to its demands? The president as well as the members of congress will be exempt from all of it. I can't help but think that if it was the wonderful solution to all our health care woes that we are being told it is that all those proponents would be eager to participate in its benefits. But we all know that isn't the case so of course they have no personally vested interest in its outcome.
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Old 01-14-2010, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Lubbock, Texas
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Yep, there's a problem. But we (myself not included in the 52% majority, because I was 16 in 2008) elected Obama and this liberal government, so we have to deal with the consequences.
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:43 PM
 
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How are they not covered by it?
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:48 PM
 
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"It specifically exempts members of Congress (along with federal employees; the exemptions are in section 3116)."
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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The democrats made a backroom deal with the unions to exempt their members who enjoy "cadillac plans".

So, I guess the unions, who are big supporters of obama and the dems, will be exempt, while the rest of the nation forks over the taxes.

Sounds fair, right?
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:55 PM
 
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"It specifically exempts members of Congress (along with federal employees; the exemptions are in section 3116)."
There is no Section 3116 in the House bill. Section 3116 in the Senate bill deals with establishing a workgroup on access to emergency care.
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Looking over your shoulder
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Too many lobbyists seem to have paid off too many of the politicians! Nothing wrong with a well-written healthcare bill however both your elected representative and mine have been paid off by the drug manufactures, insurance companies, and healthcare providers.

We get what the lobbyists paid for!
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:58 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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The democrats made a backroom deal with the unions to exempt their members who enjoy "cadillac plans".

So, I guess the unions, who are big supporters of obama and the dems, will be exempt, while the rest of the nation forks over the taxes.

Sounds fair, right?
Which unions exactly are you talking about? If you're talking about the UAW auto workers, they no longer get their insurance as a benefit of employment. It comes from a trust managed by the union therefore it's not taxable because it's not part of an income/benefits package. The companies no long contribute a penny towards employee health insurance.

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Old 01-14-2010, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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How are they not covered by it?
Are you suggesting that our members of Congress will be subject to this legislation as well?
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Old 01-14-2010, 03:34 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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The democrats made a backroom deal with the unions to exempt their members who enjoy "cadillac plans".

So, I guess the unions, who are big supporters of obama and the dems, will be exempt, while the rest of the nation forks over the taxes.

Sounds fair, right?


I just have had enough of anything this guy does or says. I do remember all those promises he made while campaigining, anyone video any of those, go back and play them back, see what he say's in those speeches. Once he got into office, he had his own agenda, and he's seen to it, that his agenda is met one way or the other. They are the worse bunch yet, the Brady Bunch they are not. By the time he is done, he would have spent money like it is water, but it's all ok cause Because it is part of this NEW CHANGE.
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