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Old 01-18-2010, 04:30 AM
 
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Whoa, look at the source of the link.
Let's see something credible.
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Old 01-18-2010, 04:38 AM
 
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when congress made the law stating that individuals could only buy insurance in the state they live in, they took the health care ball out of their hands and put it completely in the hands of the states.
Still bamboozled into believing that the insurance companies are the good guys, eh? Here's what those laws you hate do. They allow your state government to say, sure you can sell insurance in our state, but you can't go around scamming people and ripping them all off. So your operations are going to be overseen and regulated by a state commission, and by the way, here are some minimum standards that the policies you sell must meet. We've established these so that our citizens are assured of receiving at least some actual value in their policies, not just a bunch of evasive lawyer talk for how you are actually never going to pay off.

Enter a bunch of Republicans with their help-the-people plans. They want to remove a state's right to protect its citizens. They want to replace the standards that exist where the consumer lives with the standards that exist where the insurance company operates. Well, guess what. The weakest state standards in the country are currently those in Mississippi. YOUR insurance company will be headquartered in Mississippi. They may not be now, but they magically will be if state's rights are dropped. Won't last that long though, as somebody like Oklahoma will soon enough realize that they can get a boost to their tax base by luring a few insurance companies into the state/ So they pass insurance standards that are even weaker than those in Mississippi, and before you know it, you have a nice race-to-the-bottom to see how unregulated insuirance companies can actually become. Real good idea, huh...
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Old 01-18-2010, 04:41 AM
 
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Still bamboozled into believing that the insurance companies are the good guys, eh? Here's what those laws you hate do. They allow your state government to say, sure you can sell insurance in our state, but you can't go around scamming people and ripping them all off. So your operations are going to be overseen and regulated by a state commission, and by the way, here are some minimum standards that the policies you sell must meet. We've established these so that our citizens are assured of receiving at least some actual value in their policies, not just a bunch of evasive lawyer talk for how you are actually never going to pay off.

Enter a bunch of Republicans with their help-the-people plans. They want to remove a state's right to protect its citizens. They want to replace the standards that exist where the consumer lives with the standards that exist where the insurance company operates. Well, guess what. The weakest state standards in the country are currently those in Mississippi. YOUR insurance company will be headquartered in Mississippi. They may not be now, but they magically will be if state's rights are dropped. Won't last that long though, as somebody like Oklahoma will soon enough realize that they can get a boost to their tax base by luring a few insurance companies into the state/ So they pass insurance standards that are even weaker than those in Mississippi, and before you know it, you have a nice race-to-the-bottom to see how unregulated insuirance companies can actually become. Real good idea, huh...

not bamboozled at all, and please tell me when the liberal party has been so fired up about states rights?

also, if I was able to purchase insurance in any state I wished to, then I could buy it in any state I wished, and not have to buy some scam insurance from the state I live in.
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Old 01-18-2010, 04:46 AM
 
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if this health care program is supposed to be soooooo good, then someone please explain to me why congress is not going to be on it?
What makes you think they won't be "on it"? The vast majority in Congress is insured under the Federal Employees Health Benefits Plan, which is an employer-based plan like any other. Some, but certainly not most, of the plans offered under FEHBP will for instance be subject to the cadillac-tax if that is in the final bill. So how do you figure they aren't "on it"???
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Old 01-18-2010, 04:47 AM
 
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What makes you think they won't be "on it"? The vast majority in Congress is insured under the Federal Employees Health Benefits Plan, which is an employer-based plan like any other. Some, but certainly not most, of the plans offered under FEHBP will for instance be subject to the cadillac-tax if that is in the final bill. So how do you figure they aren't "on it"???

wait and see, congress already believes they are part of the ruling elite and not subject to the same laws that us normal americans are.
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Old 01-18-2010, 04:53 AM
 
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wait and see, congress already believes they are part of the ruling elite and not subject to the same laws that us normal americans are.
I see. You don't actually have any evidence at all and were just making inflated claims that had exactly nada. zip, nothing behind them. Great...
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Old 01-18-2010, 04:55 AM
 
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Still bamboozled into believing that the insurance companies are the good guys, eh? Here's what those laws you hate do. They allow your state government to say, sure you can sell insurance in our state, but you can't go around scamming people and ripping them all off. So your operations are going to be overseen and regulated by a state commission, and by the way, here are some minimum standards that the policies you sell must meet. We've established these so that our citizens are assured of receiving at least some actual value in their policies, not just a bunch of evasive lawyer talk for how you are actually never going to pay off.

Enter a bunch of Republicans with their help-the-people plans. They want to remove a state's right to protect its citizens. They want to replace the standards that exist where the consumer lives with the standards that exist where the insurance company operates. Well, guess what. The weakest state standards in the country are currently those in Mississippi. YOUR insurance company will be headquartered in Mississippi. They may not be now, but they magically will be if state's rights are dropped. Won't last that long though, as somebody like Oklahoma will soon enough realize that they can get a boost to their tax base by luring a few insurance companies into the state/ So they pass insurance standards that are even weaker than those in Mississippi, and before you know it, you have a nice race-to-the-bottom to see how unregulated insuirance companies can actually become. Real good idea, huh...
I guess this was the long way to say that we as a people are to stupid to make our own choices in life. I guess what my parents taught me as a kid with the old saying buyer beware would no longer apply.
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