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Agree 110%. Call me heartless but if we do not help ourselves we will not be able to help anyone else. I am also pretty sure we will get the blame for all the bad stuff happening in Haiti right now. It will be because we did not help fast enough or we did not give enough or we did not coordinate it enough.
And why just the US? Where is the pressure on Canada? England? Australia?
They are better off first world countries as well.
I mean, I am not saying Obama should not have done ANYTHING, you know? It is beyond terrible what happened but they should not be demanding more and putting more pressure when we are broke ourselves. We are doing what we can and that is it.
It is like me asking my friend who has been out a job for years to help pay for my house being hit by an Earthquake.
Why is that most are ok with helping different countries but when it comes to helping US citizens, it is "Socialism"?
Gawd....just added something else to add to my book!
And why just the US? Where is the pressure on Canada? England? Australia?
They are better off first world countries as well.
I mean, I am not saying Obama should not have done ANYTHING, you know? It is beyond terrible what happened but they should not be demanding more and putting more pressure when we are broke ourselves. We are doing what we can and that is it.
It is like me asking my friend who has been out a job for years to help pay for my house being hit by an Earthquake.
Why is that most are ok with helping different countries but when it comes to helping US citizens, it is "Socialism"?
Gawd....just added something else to add to my book!
I think we should have let personal donations be enough right now. We just don't have it. I have a friend that is on the verge of loosing her house because she has been out of work for almost a year yet she can get no help from the government but we have 100 mil to send there. Just does not seem right.
I don't see helping Americans as socialism what I do see as socialism is forcing people to purchase something they may not want.
Why is that most are ok with helping different countries but when it comes to helping US citizens, it is "Socialism"?
Most Americans have no idea what socialism actually is. The common perception is that it's bad because it's similar to communism and that's what the USSR was about and the USSR was evil, and so on. So many people have been conditioned to fear that word. Pavlov would be proud. And now, the word is completely misused and overused in the media.
Government spending is not socialistic. Government regulations are not socialistic. Socialism is common ownership of the means of production. Government spending and regulations are not socialism. Socialism would be the nationalization of Bank of America (not a bailout).
I think we should have let personal donations be enough right now. We just don't have it. I have a friend that is on the verge of loosing her house because she has been out of work for almost a year yet she can get no help from the government but we have 100 mil to send there. Just does not seem right.
I don't see helping Americans as socialism what I do see as socialism is forcing people to purchase something they may not want.
Oh, I know. I agree. You know that you and I probably really in the center (Leaning left and right) because I feel we can agree on most minus abortion and other issues.
How the HELL did we have 100 million to send there when our own people are going hungry?
Oh, I know. I agree. You know that you and I probably really in the center (Leaning left and right) because I feel we can agree on most minus abortion and other issues.
How the HELL did we have 100 million to send there when our own people are going hungry?
And why the heck are we up at 5 30?
LOL please girl I have been up since 4:00 am.
We don't disagree on abortion, I think it should be allowed not after 16 weeks but available. I don't like it an wish woman would chose another option but it is a necessary procedure in my eyes.
I really think we agree on most issues with a little tweaking here or there.
We don't disagree on abortion, I think it should be allowed not after 16 weeks but available. I don't like it an wish woman would chose another option but it is a necessary procedure in my eyes.
I really think we agree on most issues with a little tweaking here or there.
Oh I see! I did not know that. It is nice to get to know each other better no matter what our views are (YES BECK IS A CRYBABY )
You are correct, we now have over 800 military bases. Over 1,000 if you include bases in Iraq and Afghanistan. This is according to the Pentagon's own list, which I think is a bit more accurate than wikipedia. Do you disagree?
Your original post stated over 700 overseas bases.
The data you linked to is from 2005.
The data adds up to 252 overseas bases.
This data was before BRAC closures.
This was a snapshot in time provided during FY2005.
For example, they're counting family housing as separate facilities even though they're considered part of the footprint of each base.
Many of these facilities have been closed; for example Wuerzburg, Germany. Some, such as the Swetzingen training area consist of one building in the middle of nowhere, that provides training. How many facilities have 1 building? How many have a communications tower only? How many are already closed?
Most South Korean posts are being closed and consolidated with the main hub at Camp Humphreys.
Japan and Italy, the same.
You have to be careful when you look at information without understanding what the information means.
They count a small power house as a building, for example. You have to provide covering for a transformer, that's considered a building.
Don't misunderstand me. I think we have way too many facilities overseas myself.
It's just that looking at raw data doesn't always provide clear information.
Department of Defense
Base Structure Report
FY 2009 Baseline
I. Introduction
The Department manages a global real property portfolio consisting of more than 539,000 facilities (buildings, structures, and linear structures) located on more than 5,570 sites, on approximately 29 million acres.
that is a lot of american wealth transferred overseas.
Where were you after 3-4 yrs of Iraq? Upset that Bush was bankrolling his war with communist moola?
Doubt it.
Spending tons of $ wastefully in one country doesn't justify repeating it in another.
We should help Haiti out now, out of humanitarian grounds. But as far as re-building the country.....Haiti needs to taken over as they clearly cannot rule themselves.
Or else, it WOULD be throwing away money we haven't got.
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It is nice to get to know each other better no matter what our views are (YES BECK IS A CRYBABY 
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