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View Poll Results: Would you support the South seceding from the Union?
Yes, strongly support 88 33.08%
Yes, support 30 11.28%
Don't care either way 33 12.41%
No, oppose 17 6.39%
No, strongly oppose 98 36.84%
Voters: 266. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-20-2010, 08:05 AM
 
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I'm sensing a resurgence in Southern pride lately. Would you like to see the South secede from the Union?

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The main reason it would bother me is the fact that the rest of us would be left with most of the liberals. Could we just ask California, and the North East to secede instead?
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Old 01-20-2010, 08:07 AM
 
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Doesn't matter they were traitors.
So sez you, which amounts to diddly squat. I guess you must figure though, if you keep parroting it, it might be believed. If the radicals in the North could have convicted the Confederates of treason, they gladly would have. Instead, as has been pointed out many times, they feared making fools of themselves if they tried, so wisely decided against it.

To repeat Chief Justice Salmon Chases strong advise to Secretary of War Edwin Stanton: "If you bring these leaders to trial, it will condemn the North, for by the Constitution, secession is not rebellion...His (Jeff Davis') capture was a mistake. His trial will be a greater one. We cannot convict him of treason."

Also, a congressional committee in proposing the trial for Davis appointed Judge Franz Leiber to head it. Lieber later said "After studying more than 270,000 Confederate documents, seeking evidence against Davis, the court discouraged the War Department: 'Davis will be found not guilty (of treason),' and we shall stand there completely beaten'."

You of course are free to have a different personal opinion...but the powers that be of the time, who knew the real score, definitely felt otherwise.

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Old 01-20-2010, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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Yes, bring on the Treason so we can nuke the south occupy it and hang the traitors from telephone poles
You do realize that Southerners make up a VERY large portion of our military? Many of our military bases are also in the South, so just who are you planning on doing this nuking?

If all Southerners were to pull out of the US military it would be left looking like the Canadian Royal Mounted Police! lmao
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Old 01-20-2010, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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If only all Americans could think and behave alike these discussions would not be necessary.
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Old 01-20-2010, 08:35 AM
 
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If only all Americans could think and behave alike these discussions would not be necessary.
That would be no fun!
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Old 01-20-2010, 08:37 AM
 
Location: DFW
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No to succession but yes to a new American Revolution. Let's start with Ted Kennedy's senate seat in Mass and take back states like NJ and CA.

No need for us to succeed when it's only 6-9 states that are screwed up with liberal hidden Obama Chicago style politics.
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Old 01-20-2010, 10:00 AM
 
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Let's ask the Cherokee------


Throughout the Confederate States, we saw this great revolution effected without violence or suspension of the laws or the closing of the courts, The military power was nowhere placed above the civil authorities. None were seized and imprisoned at the mandate of arbitrary power. All division among the people disappeared, and the determination became unanimous that there should never again be any union with the Northern States. Almost as one man, all who were able to bear arms rushed to the defense of an invaded country, and nowhere has it been found necessary to compel men TO SERVE, or to enlist mercenaries by the offer of extraordinary bounties.

But, in the Northern States, the Cherokee people saw with alarm a violated constitution, all civil liberty put in peril, and all rules of civilized warfare and the dictates of common humanity and decency unhesitatingly disregarded. In states which still adhered to the Union, a military despotism had displaced the civil power and the laws became silent amid arms. Free speech and almost free thought became a crime. The right of the writ of habeas corpus, guaranteed by the constitution, disappeared at the nod of a Secretary of State or a general of the lowest grade. The mandate of the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court was at naught by the military power, and this outrage on common right, approved by a President sworn to support the constitution. War on the largest scale was waged, and the immense bodies of troops called into the field in the absence of any law warranting it under the pretense of suppressing unlawful combination of men.

The American Indian And The "Great Emancipator"
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Awesome post!
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Old 01-20-2010, 10:41 AM
 
Location: South Carolina - The Palmetto State
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Would love to see the bigoted and racist Northeast leave the Union. Then they can have their socialist utopia
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Old 01-20-2010, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Needless to say: Quebec would have crapped its drawers being 100% surrounded by English speakers.
How is that different from the current situation? They are 100% surrounded by English speakers right now, including some 20-odd million within Canada itself!
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Old 01-20-2010, 04:36 PM
 
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I am going to make my case on this. Personally, I won't support it, and I don't trust the Southern cause for reasons related to family history. With that said, there are other places I can live. For that reason, if the South secedes, I am not going to care. I will be honest and say that I don't support it. If it was left to a vote, I would vote NO to secession. My loyalties are not to the Southern USA. I don't think in those terms. If the South does successfully secede, I can vote with my feet and live somewhere else. How does the South seceding help me?
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