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Old 08-15-2010, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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The tenaments immigrants were forced to live in as well as labor conditions in factories were injustices. The people behind them were not "responsible people" nor was anything illegitimately taken from them. Thanks to Progressives I can work at my own will, make a fair wage and live in a safe apartment building.



Thanks to those pesky Progs Boss Tweed and his associates spent the rest of their lives in jail.
But surely those progs, as you call them, failed to get the real social justice of income redistribution and although some things got better the poor never did draw even so now we have to rely on government to take the wealth of the wealthy and redistribute it to the poor people. I call that buying votes but you think of it as social justice.
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Old 08-15-2010, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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As you drink clean water, breath decent air, are able to vote not matter what your color or sex, know that if you are injured at work you have worker's compensation, live in a nation where the elderly do not live in poverty, where you can use a public library, benefit from the railroads, enjoy the benefits of the interstates, it is easy to decry what progressives have done.

"A great democracy must be progressive or it will soon cease to be a great democracy” Theodore Roosevelt, Cheyenne, WY Aug. 27, 1910
You just quoted the first of the really popular progressives. I guess you know that.
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Old 08-16-2010, 04:57 AM
 
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and in order to do all these GREAT "progressive" things we must steel the money to do it from the hard workers here in this country.....BSBSBS Progressive are just sly thieves.
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Old 08-16-2010, 11:05 AM
 
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No response to that. So progressives must believe that it is ok to steal, as long as it is from the people who work hard and make money.....what happens if everyone stops working? How will it go then. Who would they steal the money from to pay everyone to live?
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Old 08-16-2010, 01:58 PM
 
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You just quoted the first of the really popular progressives. I guess you know that.
And a Republican! But the current GOP has lost its way and is the party of intolerance and ignorance.
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Old 08-16-2010, 02:06 PM
 
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I think I can help many of you stop calling yourselves progressive when speaking about politics. I can only do that if I can convince you that you know little or nothing about that history.

I have read enough today from many who claim to be liberal Democrats and who support that kind in Congress who are little more than progressives that really don't want many things you want.

Ok, now join many in this country who have heard about the documentary that will be shown by Glenn Beck tomorrow. It is called "Live Free, Or Die" and I think will convince many that we have been crapped on for way too long. He is explaining right now what is on there and it is very scary for anyone. You will be able to find out some very good things about what progressives really stand for and have for so long.

Please, watch it at 4:00 CST or 5:00 EST tomorrow. If you can't see it as I can't, record it any way you can. See it for your own good since I think you will find that it isn't just a pile of crap like so many would expect because it is Beck's documentary. Watch this and then lets talk about how right or wrong it was. If you don't see it please don't tell me how bad it was because that is pure following of progressive doctrine. Some won't like it because it is largely about collectivism and how successful collectivists, or progressives have been in the past.

OK, the Beck crazy has done his thing. Now each of you do yours or take the word of progressives like Andy Stern who says the old communist saying of workers of the world unite is no longer just some words but we have come to the place where we need to use force for that uniting.

Have you ever taken a US History course??

You do know that Progressives were Liberal Republicans?

Ever hear of 'The Wisconsin Idea'?

LaFollette?
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Old 08-16-2010, 02:16 PM
 
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Beck! if you are reading this the left wont be watching your little show because our guy and party is in power,we got a life to deal with unlike your zombie viewers, why not another show in a couple of years explaining the conspiracy behind why Obama got voted in for a second term. I might even tune into that one.
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Old 08-16-2010, 02:28 PM
 
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And a Republican! But the current GOP has lost its way and is the party of intolerance and ignorance.
we are being fooled by them all....
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Old 08-16-2010, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Have you ever taken a US History course??

You do know that Progressives were Liberal Republicans?

Ever hear of 'The Wisconsin Idea'?

LaFollette?
Not that I agree with much that Roysoldboy posts - I don't - but you should know that he has posted numerous times that he used to TEACH history.
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Old 08-16-2010, 03:24 PM
 
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But surely those progs, as you call them, failed to get the real social justice of income redistribution and although some things got better the poor never did draw even so now we have to rely on government to take the wealth of the wealthy and redistribute it to the poor people. I call that buying votes but you think of it as social justice.
A progressive tax system is one of the basic tenants of capitalism. It sounds like you need to read Adam Smith's landmark tome on this.
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