Why dont pro-military "republicans" want to pay taxes to support the military (Baby Boomers, soldier)

[pollyrobin]

Originally Posted by Frankie117

Here is another break down of the defense budget ($793 billion):

U.S. Department of Commerce. Bureau of Economic Analysis

We spend more for military than just what is listed under the defense budget(bill):
$965 billion:
• Military Personnel $129 billion
• Operation & Maint. $241 billion
• Procurement $143 billion
• Research & Dev. $79 billion
• Construction $15 billion
• Family Housing $3 billion
• DoD misc. $4 billion
• Retired Pay $70 billion
• DoE nuclear weapons $17 billion
• NASA (50%) $9 billion
• International Security $9 billion
• Homeland Secur. (military) $35 billion
• State Dept. (partial) $6 billion
• other military (non-DoD) $5 billion
• “Global War on Terror” $200 billion [We added $162 billion to the last item to supplement the Budget’s grossly underestimated $38 billion in “allowances” to be spent in 2009 for the “War on Terror,” which includes the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan]

Past Military,
$484 billion:
• Veterans’ Benefits $94 billion
• Interest on national debt (80%) created by military spending, $390 billion

It really depends on where you want your tax dollars spent - here or over there and everywhere else? If I'm going to pay taxes - I want it spent here

[nononsenseguy]

Originally Posted by tinman01

I agree with most of your post, the exception being the size of our military v.s the former USSR and China.
People's Liberation Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It was "Ohio is the best" that said that.

[Frankie117]

Originally Posted by nononsenseguy

No, he didn't. Where are you getting that from? I was around for those horrible Carter years. I remember. Long gas lines, double digit inflation, double digit interest rates, and Carter cut the military. If I'm wrong, prove it? That was one of the things Reagan campaigned on. Carter had reduced our military. Reagan believed in a stong defense.

It was near the end of his presidency, in 1980, which is probably why it is so heavily overshadowed. However, you are correct that military spending stagnated during the rest of his presidency.

You can actually read an original newspaper report on it here:

The Dispatch - Google News Archive Search

Originally Posted by nononsenseguy

I think your wrong on both counts. What is your source?

Pretty simple Google search answers your question:

List of countries by number of troops - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Soviet Union maintained one of the largest armies in human history from 1940-1991. Far overshadowing the US in terms of troop count. The US had them beat in terms of technology, however.

[nononsenseguy]

Originally Posted by William McKinley

I haven't met any fellow Republicans who aren't wlling to pay taxes to support the military.

Hey, are you from Niles, OH (Home of Pres. William McKinley).

[Frankie117]

Originally Posted by padcrasher

As usual the right wing poster is wrong again. ( It's why they vote they way they do)

Both Russia and China spend less on the military as defined by per capita GDP than the USA

List of countries by military expenditures - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

LOL!

That does not change the fact that the US does not have the largest army, which is the discussion the rest of us are having.

From your own link, defense spending as a % of GDP puts us at #27.

And..

List of countries by number of troops - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We fail at # of troops per capita, which further reinforces the point that we focus on technology and not sheer numbers.

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by OhioIstheBest

If we ever end the wars in the Middle East we could cut our miltary by 75 percent and still be just fine. Better actually.

are you kidding me...we cut the military by 50% during the 90's, because the 'cold war' was over...now we dont have enough troops

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by padcrasher

Here is your typical white "working class" male who is arguing that Social Security is social spending on par with welfare. Never mind you don't get social security if you don't work. Never mind it comes from payroll taxes not Federal income taxes. He thinks we should do away with Social Security cause that's welfare for brown people. He wants to cut it rather than this grotesque Defense budget we have.

Do you see now why right wing middleclass and poor GOP voters can't even understand simple concepts that enable them to vote in their own interest?

Or maybe he thinks we should default on our interest payments? Putting Millions of senior citizens into bread lines?

here is the typical liberal elitest, who doesnt understand that SS is a pyramid scheme.

here is the typical liberal, who would rather have people not work and collect welfare, while the white middleclass SLAVES pay for everything

[bily4]

Same reason most don't want to serve in the Armed Forces, just cheer from the bandstands. Chickenhawks.

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by pollyrobin

Where Your Income Tax Money Really Goes FY 2009

Total Outlays (Federal Funds): $2,650 billion
MILITARY: 54% and $1,449 billion
NON-MILITARY: 46% and $1,210 billion

LIE.


1.4 trillion to the military?????? BULLSH.T

try again

FACT:
300 billion to medicaid
430billion to medicare
560 billion to welfare

and let's not forget REDUNDANT department like the DoEducation..a UNNEEDED department since education is a STATE ISSUE

and then there is SS


we spend more on social programs than the military...that is FACT

[padcrasher]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

LIE.


1.4 trillion to the military?????? BULLSH.T

try again

FACT:
300 billion to medicaid
430billion to medicare
560 billion to welfare

and let's not forget REDUNDANT department like the DoEducation..a UNNEEDED department since education is a STATE ISSUE

and then there is SS


we spend more on social programs than the military...that is FACT

Please please please have your fellow wingnuts get together and advocate cutting non-discretionary spending such as medicare, Social Security and interest on the debt.......LOL

The GOP and 3rd Party Libertarians would have their asses thrown out of office so fast your head would spin.

Thankfully, Americans not even paying attention are not as gullible and brainwashed as you are.