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Old 01-25-2010, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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G.O.P. Lawmakers Reject Obama’s Latest Tax-Break Plans - The Caucus Blog - NYTimes.com

I guess the GOP is fine with tax cuts as long as it's for the rich.
Socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor.
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Old 01-25-2010, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Well wait a minute aren't we told that Bush's tax cuts lead to the deficit and Obama is letting them lapse? So which is it? Do tax cuts increase the deficit? And if they do is it wise to increase the deficit after raising hte debt ceiling by $1.9 Trillion?
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Old 01-25-2010, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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G.O.P. Lawmakers Reject Obama’s Latest Tax-Break Plans - The Caucus Blog - NYTimes.com

I guess the GOP is fine with tax cuts as long as it's for the rich.
Socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor.
Pretty much describes them in a sentence. It is not only the tax cuts but look where they send billions of dollars- to red state wealthy farmers. When I see the Tea bunch raising hell about a 100 billion dollar farm welfare bill, I might find some ground with them.
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Old 01-25-2010, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Just freakin' playing Santa Claus after getting spanked in Mass.

Doing the Clinton shuffle (toward the center). Should make liberals proud.
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Old 01-25-2010, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Well wait a minute aren't we told that Bush's tax cuts lead to the deficit and Obama is letting them lapse? So which is it? Do tax cuts increase the deficit? And if they do is it wise to increase the deficit after raising hte debt ceiling by $1.9 Trillion?
I'm for tax credits for certain things for the middle class and businesses provided the rich are taxed at a higher rate.

This is why I'm for a higher tax rate for the rich:

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A relative handful of Americans, says a key congressional panel, will take home more this year than half the nation's taxpayers combined.

Americans worried about the ever-intensifying concentration of wealth at America’s economic summit have been focusing of late, quite understandably, on the latest annual round of Wall Street bank bonus awards.

But we now have even more reason to worry about our savagely unequal distribution of income and wealth — from researchers at the congressional Joint Committee on Taxation. Earlier this month, that panel released income estimates for the coming year. They make for a sobering read.

In 2010, the tax panel calculates, a little over 1 million U.S. taxpayers will report incomes over $500,000. These 1 million top-earners will collect an astounding $241 billion more in income this year than the just under 80 million taxpayers who will take home less than $40,000.
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Old 01-25-2010, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Of course, all of the bailouts are for the fascist corporate regimes such as GM and AIG, and very little to nothing for small business.
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Old 01-25-2010, 08:45 PM
 
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Get real...
the tax cuts Obama proposes are illusions.

So he'll give a retirement credit to someone who can't afford to save a dollar for next week's meal... gee whiz...

BULL that's what this Congress is doing and we ought to have better.

Make sure a darned terrorist ain't lighting a ball/crotch bomb in the seat next to me in a plane...

Oh, better yet, tell our President that we aren't impressed with the so called party breakers at his events. Such silly non-sense is not impressing on any level.
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Old 01-25-2010, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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I'm for tax credits for certain things for the middle class and businesses provided the rich are taxed at a higher rate.

This is why I'm for a higher tax rate for the rich:



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"For simplicity, we'll just focus on the over-$250,000 group. Those reporting adjusted gross income of more than $250,000 to the IRS are projected to make up 2 percent of households next year, when the new president will take office. Those folks will earn 24.1 percent of all income, and pay 43.6 percent of all personal federal income taxes, the Tax Policy Center figures. Under either Obama or Clinton, they might pay even more."

FactCheck.org: What percentage of the U.S. population makes more than $250,000 per year? (http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/what_percentage_of_the_us_population_makes.html - broken link)

Ok how much more will they have to pay for Obama's largesse? What effect do you think that will have on the economy? What effect will it have on the deficit? This was tried in the 70's. The top marginal rate was 70%. How did that work out for us?
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Old 01-25-2010, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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"For simplicity, we'll just focus on the over-$250,000 group. Those reporting adjusted gross income of more than $250,000 to the IRS are projected to make up 2 percent of households next year, when the new president will take office. Those folks will earn 24.1 percent of all income, and pay 43.6 percent of all personal federal income taxes, the Tax Policy Center figures. Under either Obama or Clinton, they might pay even more."

FactCheck.org: What percentage of the U.S. population makes more than $250,000 per year? (http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/what_percentage_of_the_us_population_makes.html - broken link)

Ok how much more will they have to pay for Obama's largesse? What effect do you think that will have on the economy? What effect will it have on the deficit? This was tried in the 70's. The top marginal rate was 70%. How did that work out for us?

And you are pulling the 70% out of what exactly? Has anything been discussed about going even remotely that high?? No, so stop making crap up. What has been talked about is letting the tax cuts expire for the top two brackets. Those making over $250,000 will go back to the Clinton era rates. That seemed to work out pretty well......
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Old 01-25-2010, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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And you are pulling the 70% out of what exactly? Has anything been discussed about going even remotely that high?? No, so stop making crap up. What has been talked about is letting the tax cuts expire for the top two brackets. Those making over $250,000 will go back to the Clinton era rates. That seemed to work out pretty well......

Actually nobody has said exactly how Obama plans to pay for his tax cut. Wasn't Bush criticised for that? Taxes who have to rise extrodinarily high on high income earners to pay for tax cuts and to cut into the deficit. 70% doesn't seem unrealistic.

As for Clinton and his tax rates. Please let me know what bubble you would like to substitute for the internet bubble Clinton benefitted from. Without that his administration would look far different.
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