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Old 01-27-2010, 12:10 PM
 
Location: NoVA
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we have no workers only CEO wanabees.
Sad but true. Maybe people of previous generations wouldn't mind manual labor jobs, but as for younger people gearing up for the workforce today? They don't want to work in a factory, they want to work in the office building in front of the factory. They don't want to be foremen, they want to be executives.

Nothing inherently wrong with that, but if that's all that more and more of our workforce wants, well, then America gradually will drift towards status as a white-collar country. We'll continue to offshore our production so poorer nations can experience their own industrial revolutions and thus become blue-collar factory countries. I know that's a gross oversimplification of a much more complex issue, but as far as I'm concerned thats it in a nutshell.
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Old 01-27-2010, 12:14 PM
 
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I'm almost too old to care to have a dog in this fight but the feeling out there among many Americans that someone owes them a living requires that I comment. I am currently fighting a legal battle with a young fellow (30-ish) who mistakenly thinks I owe him a house to live in for free. Unfortunately our system of justice has evolved to protect these sorts because it had to first assume all folks deserve help. This is not the case with this sad sack and it is taking my money and court time to teach him that I did not put him in the sad situation that he finds himself. The short of this story is that I'll be out some money and this guy will be out of house in the dead of winter. I'm not sure if this guy will learn any lessons in this but I surely have.

If you think my comment above is off-topic, I suggest that this you-owe-me attitude among Americans is one of the predominant reasons why U.S. manufacturing has disappeared, both on the corporate and on the worker sides.
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Old 01-27-2010, 12:18 PM
 
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Uh.. no. But I have morals and a conscience, so I could in no way be a CEO. I didn't get to my point in life by stepping on my fellow Americans.
Good for you. Neither could I or did I.
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Old 01-27-2010, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Spartanburg, SC
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I'm almost too old to care to have a dog in this fight but the feeling out there among many Americans that someone owes them a living requires that I comment. I am currently fighting a legal battle with a young fellow (30-ish) who mistakenly thinks I owe him a house to live in for free. Unfortunately our system of justice has evolved to protect these sorts because it had to first assume all folks deserve help. This is not the case with this sad sack and it is taking my money and court time to teach him that I did not put him in the sad situation that he finds himself. The short of this story is that I'll be out some money and this guy will be out of house in the dead of winter. I'm not sure if this guy will learn any lessons in this but I surely have.

If you think my comment above is off-topic, I suggest that this you-owe-me attitude among Americans is one of the predominant reasons why U.S. manufacturing has disappeared, both on the corporate and on the worker sides.

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Old 01-27-2010, 12:24 PM
 
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Bascially the opposite that built it. Tehn third worl dcountries could not manufacture what we coulkd boith in human skiils and or the equipemnt to do it. We sould our goods to them. Now people have progresssed and nw they can and they can do it cheaper. Basacailly its been coming for decades.
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Old 01-27-2010, 12:30 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Bascially the opposite that built it. Tehn third worl dcountries could not manufacture what we coulkd boith in human skiils and or the equipemnt to do it. We sould our goods to them. Now people have progresssed and nw they can and they can do it cheaper. Basacailly its been coming for decades.

LOL!

I think you need to clean your keyboard! Did you spew beer over reading a post?

Or you got really fat fingers!

They can do it cheaper and with free trade, that puts the American worker out of business.

Like a legal business trying to compete with one using illegal alien labor.
Who's doors are going to shut first.
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Old 01-27-2010, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Sad but true. Maybe people of previous generations wouldn't mind manual labor jobs, but as for younger people gearing up for the workforce today? They don't want to work in a factory, they want to work in the office building in front of the factory. They don't want to be foremen, they want to be executives.

Nothing inherently wrong with that, but if that's all that more and more of our workforce wants, well, then America gradually will drift towards status as a white-collar country. We'll continue to offshore our production so poorer nations can experience their own industrial revolutions and thus become blue-collar factory countries. I know that's a gross oversimplification of a much more complex issue, but as far as I'm concerned thats it in a nutshell.
a few years ago, as I moved up from worker to manager, my boss explained it to me (as he was explaining I had to drop the 'worker' attitude and become a manager)....he said... we are no longer a manufacturing country, we are a managing country....this was back in 2000
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Old 01-27-2010, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Bascially the opposite that built it. Tehn third worl dcountries could not manufacture what we coulkd boith in human skiils and or the equipemnt to do it. We sould our goods to them. Now people have progresssed and nw they can and they can do it cheaper. Basacailly its been coming for decades.

tex....slow down...what you have to say is fine...how you type is is difficult to read
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Old 01-27-2010, 12:33 PM
 
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LOL!

I think you need to clean your keyboard!
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Did you spew beer over reading a post?

Or you got really fat fingers!

They can do it cheaper and with free trade, that puts the American worker out of business.

Like a legal business trying to compete with one using illegal alien labor.
Who's doors are going to shut first.
I was going to take up a CD collection and buy him a new keyboard but it's against the CD rules....

But I need a new one too...LOL

But Tex is a good guy...
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Old 01-27-2010, 12:47 PM
 
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In your Opinion, what got the ball rolling for our Industrial manufacturing base and jobs, to leave America.


Who is at fault for the start of the exit?
Profits directly related to Labor Costs.

It was cheaper to make goods overseas, so companies moved production overseas.
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