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Old 01-31-2010, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Colleges and universities continue to raise their tuition because the government continues to raise the numbers and amounts of grants and loans. It's a never ending cycle and it needs to stop.
What they need to do in government is tell universities that if they don't start dropping their tuition rates then government loans will not go to students who attend their school.

Government has no trouble mandating higher fuel efficiency standards for auto manufactures, energy efficiency for appliances, or more efficient electrical power plants, but they let colleges keep charging more for tuition, and increase the tuition funding.
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Here is an interesting report analyzing college tuition increases over time, with this specific quote from pg 11:

Although average published tuition and fees increased by about 15% in inflation-adjusted dollars at private not-for-profit four-year colleges and universities from 2004-05 to 2009-10, and by about 20% at public four-year institutions, the estimated average 2009-10 net price for full-time students, after considering grant aid and federal tax benefits, is about $1,100 lower (in 2009 dollars) in the private sector and about $400 lower in the public sector than it was five years ago.

http://www.trends-collegeboard.com/c...ge_Pricing.pdf
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:09 PM
 
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So it's only on federal student loans, not private?


wow, way to help only the people who's parents didn't work for a living thus got riddled with federal loans. Not men like my brother who has six figures in private loans for med school.


Useless.
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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Here is an interesting report analyzing college tuition increases over time, with this specific quote from pg 11:

Although average published tuition and fees increased by about 15% in inflation-adjusted dollars at private not-for-profit four-year colleges and universities from 2004-05 to 2009-10, and by about 20% at public four-year institutions, the estimated average 2009-10 net price for full-time students, after considering grant aid and federal tax benefits, is about $1,100 lower (in 2009 dollars) in the private sector and about $400 lower in the public sector than it was five years ago.

http://www.trends-collegeboard.com/c...ge_Pricing.pdf
Thanks for posting that! That's exactly the point I was trying to make.
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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What they need to do in government is tell universities that if they don't start dropping their tuition rates then government loans will not go to students who attend their school.

Government has no trouble mandating higher fuel efficiency standards for auto manufactures, energy efficiency for appliances, or more efficient electrical power plants, but they let colleges keep charging more for tuition, and increase the tuition funding.
Very true! Makes you wonder why they don't do that.
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:17 PM
 
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Conservatives should run with this. In a lot of way it encapsulates big government feel-good intervention.

Nobody in Real America is struggling with federal student debt, as the repayment rules are incredibly lax already. It's all private loans. That's the crux of the problem, yet nothing is done to even try to solve it; this is window glossing over a real problem.
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:23 PM
 
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Public office jobs don't make any profits for the community and only cost money. In Europe the most jokes are about employees in public office since most of the employees (Europe) start the day with coffee and talking and doing nothing( discussing the games they watched over the weekend, etc.). After a couple of hours of doing nothing they go to lunch and can't wait till it is 5 pm to go home and hardly anything is done...sorry I'm not saying it all is true but many have experienced the long lines of waiting in city halls, the bureaucracy and weeks of waiting due to the slow process.[/b]
Pretty much my day (I work in the private sector), head in a little after 9, bull****, get some stuff done, leave when I feel like it.

It's great, I wouldn't want to be constrained by working in the public sector.
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Here is an interesting report analyzing college tuition increases over time, with this specific quote from pg 11:

Although average published tuition and fees increased by about 15% in inflation-adjusted dollars at private not-for-profit four-year colleges and universities from 2004-05 to 2009-10, and by about 20% at public four-year institutions, the estimated average 2009-10 net price for full-time students, after considering grant aid and federal tax benefits, is about $1,100 lower (in 2009 dollars) in the private sector and about $400 lower in the public sector than it was five years ago.

http://www.trends-collegeboard.com/c...ge_Pricing.pdf
Not here in Texas..tuition went up this year and they've announced it's going up again next year. I've been taking classes (one per semester) and I can tell you my tuition is NOT lower now than 5 years ago.
Plus there are additional mandatory "fees" now that weren't there in 2005.

Austin Community College (Texas residents)
cost per credit in 2005: $100/credit
cost per credit in 2010: $137/credit
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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Not here in Texas..tuition went up this year and they've announced it's going up again next year. I've been taking classes (one per semester) and I can tell you my tuition is NOT lower now than 5 years ago.
Plus there are additional mandatory "fees" now that weren't there in 2005.

Austin Community College (Texas residents)
cost per credit in 2005: $100/credit
cost per credit in 2010: $137/credit
Yes, the prices are going up but so are the government subsidies to the students. It's a vicious cycle that nobody seems to want to put an end to.
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Marion, IA
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most people I know struggling with student debt are contributint NOTHING to society because they got a worthless degree.
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