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Old 02-01-2010, 08:34 PM
 
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Simply an utter take down of the right wing myth that only "citizens" have Constitutional rights.

After you read this, you almost feel sorry for these right wing dupes who can't hold a candle to this writer when it comes to expert analysis of Constitutional matters.

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/gl...ins/index.html
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Old 02-01-2010, 08:36 PM
 
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debuked??-----you're right, I can't hold a candle to you guys. I think I'll use a flame thrower instead.
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Old 02-01-2010, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Actually, it would make sense that our founding fathers would want natural law to apply to anyone they deal with. Our rights are not given to us by government but by our Creator.
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Old 02-01-2010, 08:40 PM
 
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Actually, it would make sense that our founding fathers would want natural law to apply to anyone they deal with. Our rights are not given to us by government but by our Creator.
Don't push your fairy tales here. It's off topic. There is a whole other forum for Bible thumpers to spread their delusions.
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Old 02-01-2010, 08:41 PM
 
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Simply an utter take down of the right wing myth that only "citizens" have Constitutional rights.

After you read this, you almost feel sorry for these right wing dupes who can't hold a candle to this writer when it comes to expert analysis of Constitutional matters.

Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com
As usual, your news source is completely wrong.

People who join the military actually are not afforded "Constitutional protection".. Have you ever heard of a military trial? There are times that the Constitutional protection does not even protect our own citizens let alone terrorists..

Boy that didnt take long to dispute.. NEXT..
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Old 02-01-2010, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Don't push your fairy tales here. It's off topic. There is a whole other forum for Bible thumpers to spread their delusions.
our "creator" doesn't have to mean God if you don't want it to. It could mean Allah, Jesus, your pet rock...whatever you want.

Too bad: "that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights" - the DoI

If you don't like it, please leave America now.
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Old 02-01-2010, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Michigan--good on the rocks
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Don't push your fairy tales here. It's off topic. There is a whole other forum for Bible thumpers to spread their delusions.
You are wrong. It was an absolutely on-topic statement. Don't let your hatred of Christians hide historical fact.

signed,
a non-bible thumper
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Old 02-01-2010, 08:53 PM
 
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You are wrong. It was an absolutely on-topic statement. Don't let your hatred of Christians hide historical fact.

signed,
a non-bible thumper
Considering our founding fathers were not christians, I indeed agree with you.. Only 1 signer of the Declaration of Independence was a catholic (Charles Carroll), the other 55 held other religions with the majority of them, (32) Episcopalian, and only 2 signers of the Constitution were catholic, (Daniel Carroll and Thomsas Fitzsimons).

Signed this agnostic..
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Old 02-01-2010, 08:56 PM
 
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our "creator" doesn't have to mean God if you don't want it to. It could mean Allah, Jesus, your pet rock...whatever you want.

Too bad: "that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights" - the DoI

If you don't like it, please leave America now.
Atheists aren't welcome in America?
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Old 02-01-2010, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Atheists aren't welcome in America?
If you object to the fact that our rights are given to us by our creator, then yes...and you can be an atheist and still believe in a creator. That creator could be your lineage, or the concept of humanity in general. Basically, it's to think outside the box and not believe that government entitles you to these rights, because they would take it away from you if they could.
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