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View Poll Results: Do You Believe There Is A Link Between Autism And Vaccines?
Yes 15 36.59%
No 22 53.66%
Unsure 4 9.76%
Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-02-2010, 01:36 PM
 
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Medical journal retracts study linking autism to vaccine - CNN.com

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The medical journal The Lancet on Tuesday retracted a controversial 1998 paper that linked the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine to autism. The study subsequently had been discredited, and last week, the lead author, Dr. Andrew Wakefield, was found to have acted unethically in conducting the research.


William Schaffner, professor and chairman of the department of preventive medicine at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, described the journal's level of action as "unprecedented."

Since Wakefield's study came out, some 20 other studies have come out, and each one of these studies, done by different researchers, in different populations and in different countries has denied the associations between vaccines and autism," he said. "... Scientifically, this story is over" Schaffner added.
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Old 02-02-2010, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The story has been over for a long time really. Only those who are so ardent in supporting it that facts no longer sway them hold to it.

People should have been tipped off when Brian Deer found Wakefield was given 55,000 pounds to find any evidence against the MMR by the Legal Aid Board. Which was paid using the money from the litigants, whose children were used as patients for the original study in the experiments to discredit the MMR. That he later received 400,000 pounds from various lawyers to prove it was dangerous. Then Wakefield applied for patients for a rival to the MMR. Even then, the data in the paper was different then the physical studies...which showed it had been manipulated and changed.

Of course, it won't change some people's views. When reality conflicts with personal life views, the facts are always changed or part of a broad conspiracy that is unprovable in itself.
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Old 02-02-2010, 02:06 PM
 
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I just knew it!
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Old 02-02-2010, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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I'm reposting this from the other thread.

"He was a paid attention seeker. His initial study involved 12 children, yes just 12. And there are people that still support the results of his initial study. He was developing his own measles vaccine which would compete directly with the MMR, gee, no conflict of interest there. Subsequently there have been several studies to investigate the link, the largest being of 537,303 children born in Denmark, and no link has been found. I'm not sure exactly what it's going to take to prove to the brainwashed people that this scare was started by junk science."

Anyone familiar with the autism/vaccine debate?
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Old 02-02-2010, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Even if there were a link between vaccines and autism, it serves the greater good to issue vaccines.

All we need is for a generation of kids growing up without being safe against these diseases. Dying in mass when an outbreak of the mumps hits, and there is nothing that can be done. The diseases changing, where it can infect the greater population who was safe against the old virus. Killing us off.
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Old 02-02-2010, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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Even if there were a link between vaccines and autism, it serves the greater good to issue vaccines.

All we need is for a generation of kids growing up without being safe against these diseases. Dying in mass when an outbreak of the mumps hits, and there is nothing that can be done. The diseases changing, where it can infect the greater population who was safe against the old virus. Killing us off.
The anti-vaccine crowd really have no idea how important herd immunity is.
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Old 02-02-2010, 03:15 PM
 
Location: California
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I voted "unsure" because until we know exactly what causes autism everything can be a contributing factor if not an outright CAUSE OF.
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Old 02-02-2010, 03:27 PM
 
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does anybody remember when we used to call kids who were devopmentally slow retarded? Now we call them autistic and as a uncle of a nephew who has been diagnosed we know better now!
I had all my vaccines but I don't believe they are a cause for Autism!
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Old 02-02-2010, 03:43 PM
 
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The timing is interesting as it is just following the announcement of Bill & Melinda Gates of the donation of $1.5 billion from their foundation for children's vaccination's world-wide.

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Old 02-02-2010, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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The timing is interesting as it is just following the announcement of Bill & Melinda Gates of the donation of $1.5 billion from their foundation for children's vaccination's world-wide.

Not true. Tha Gates Foundation has already spent millions of dollars in sub-Saharan Africa on vaccines. They have spent $82 million on Tuberculosis research, and that included resistant strains, and guaranteeing the pediatric population was fully immunized against childhood illnesses. I know there are many similar programs, but that happens to be the one I'm most familiar with. Their Foundation website is fascinating.

The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation
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