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Old 02-04-2010, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Grove City, Ohio
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Compare Truman to the way it will be with Obama in 3 years.

This is the way it should be. It is still hard to believe that such a person ever existed!!!!!

Harry Truman was a different kind of President. He probably made as many, or more important decisions regarding our nation's history as any of the other 42 Presidents preceding him. However, a measure of his greatness may rest on what he did after he left the White House.

The only asset he had when he died was the house he lived in, which was in Independence Missouri . His wife had inherited the house from her mother and father, and other than their years in the White House, they lived their entire lives there.

When he retired from office in 1952, his income was a U.S. Army pension reported to have been $13,507.72 a year. Congress, noting that he was paying for his stamps and personally licking them, granted him an 'allowance' and, later, a retroactive pension of $25,000 per year..

After President Eisenhower was inaugurated, Harry and Bess drove home to Missouri by themselves. There was no Secret Service following them.

When offered corporate positions at large salaries, he declined, stating, "You don't want me. You want the office of the President, and that doesn't belong to me. It belongs to the American people and it's not for sale."

Even later, on May 6, 1971, when Congress was preparing to award him the Medal of Honor on his 87th birthday, he refused to accept it, writing, "I don't consider that I have done anything which should be the reason for any award, Congressional or otherwise."

As president he paid for all of his own travel expenses and food.

Modern politicians have found a new level of success in cashing in on the Presidency, resulting in untold wealth. Today, many in Congress also have found a way to become quite wealthy while enjoying the fruits of their offices. Political offices are now for sale. (sic. Illinois )

Good old Harry Truman was correct when he observed, "My choices in
life were either to be a piano player in a house of prostitution or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference!

I say dig him up and clone him!!
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Old 02-04-2010, 09:22 PM
 
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the buck stops no where near bammers.

truman would be embarassed seeing what the dim party has degraded to.
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Old 02-04-2010, 11:58 PM
 
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Ahhhhhh, the romanticized version of Truman.

Harry was dirt poor, he married well when he married Bess. Her family had a farm, the farmhouse still stands, in Grandview, MO as well as the house in Independence.

For an interesting read of Truman's early political career read: "Tom's Boy Harry" It is a look into the Kansas City Mob, its "Boss" Tom Pendergast, and his roll in getting Harry Truman in to politics. at the city, regional and introduction to the national level.

As I recall Harry Truman, as any President of conscience, was never comfortable having to drop the bombs on Japan. He wanted no recognition after his Presidency ended and yearned for the quiet life he had in his days before politics.

Back then our former Presidents did not prostitute their positions to monitarily capitalize from their high office, neither when they occupied it or after their elected terms ended.

Up until recent history, our Midwestern Presidents have been made of some "True Grit". No doubt Eisenhower would also be ashamed of what Obama is doing today, especially as Commander-in-Retreat.

Both the Truman and Eisenhower Presidential museums are worth the visit when one is passing through our little "fly-over" zone of the country.
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Old 02-05-2010, 02:39 AM
 
Location: Grove City, Ohio
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Ahhhhhh, the romanticized version of Truman.

Harry was dirt poor, he married well when he married Bess. Her family had a farm, the farmhouse still stands, in Grandview, MO as well as the house in Independence.

For an interesting read of Truman's early political career read: "Tom's Boy Harry" It is a look into the Kansas City Mob, its "Boss" Tom Pendergast, and his roll in getting Harry Truman in to politics. at the city, regional and introduction to the national level.
If democrats today were like Harry Truman instead of Karl Marx I would be prone to vote democratic.

I've read the book you mention, visited the Truman Library and toured Truman's home in Independence. It is modest but if you want to sea real modest tour FDR's warm springs, georgia home.

But Truman, unlike the current communist in the white house, never threw his friends under the bus.

Tom Pendergast died when President Truman was in office and never abandoning an old friend Truman attended Pendergast's funeral even though he knew he would take a lot of heat for it. Imagine the little Stalin in the white house dong that.
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Old 02-05-2010, 03:13 AM
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Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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truman would be embarassed seeing what the dim party has degraded to.

As Eisenhower would be equally embarassed seeing what the GOP has degraded to.

Ike warned us about the influence of the military-industrial complex, instead of avoiding it both parties sold their collective souls to it, much to the detriment of the country.
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Old 02-05-2010, 04:09 AM
 
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Ive seen that email posted various places online, nicet4, but not with the "Compare Truman to Obama" couple of sentences up top.

You need to cite your sources, or otherwise indicate that you're quoting someone else's work. I think it's in the TOS.
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Old 02-05-2010, 04:11 AM
 
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Default Here's a useful Harry Truman quote

The real Republican campaign is not going to be fought on the issues. The Republicans are going to wage a campaign of phony propaganda. They are going to try what we might call the "white is black" and the "black is white" strategy....

The Republicans are all set to try this "white is black" technique. And this is the way it will work. First of all, they will try to make people believe that everything the Government has done for the country is socialism. They will go to the people and say: "Did you see that social security check you received the other day—you thought that was good for you, didn't you? That's just too bad! That's nothing in the world but socialism. Did you see that new flood control dam the Government is building over there for the protection of your property? Sorry—that's awful socialism! That new hospital that they are building is socialism. Price supports, more socialism for the farmers! Minimum wage laws? Socialism for labor! Socialism is bad for you, my friend. Everybody knows that. And here you are, with your new car, and your home, and better opportunities for the kids, and a television set—you are just surrounded by socialism!"

Now the Republicans say, "That's a terrible thing, my friend, and the only way out of this sinkhole of socialism is to vote for the Republican ticket."
Jefferson-Jackson Day Dinner (March 29, 1952) - Miller Center of Public Affairs
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Old 02-05-2010, 04:58 AM
Status: "Elect a clown? Expect a circus!" (set 25 days ago)
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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The real Republican campaign is not going to be fought on the issues. The Republicans are going to wage a campaign of phony propaganda. They are going to try what we might call the "white is black" and the "black is white" strategy....

The Republicans are all set to try this "white is black" technique. And this is the way it will work. First of all, they will try to make people believe that everything the Government has done for the country is socialism. They will go to the people and say: "Did you see that social security check you received the other day—you thought that was good for you, didn't you? That's just too bad! That's nothing in the world but socialism. Did you see that new flood control dam the Government is building over there for the protection of your property? Sorry—that's awful socialism! That new hospital that they are building is socialism. Price supports, more socialism for the farmers! Minimum wage laws? Socialism for labor! Socialism is bad for you, my friend. Everybody knows that. And here you are, with your new car, and your home, and better opportunities for the kids, and a television set—you are just surrounded by socialism!"

Now the Republicans say, "That's a terrible thing, my friend, and the only way out of this sinkhole of socialism is to vote for the Republican ticket."
Jefferson-Jackson Day Dinner (March 29, 1952) - Miller Center of Public Affairs

WOW! As one of my favorite philosophers, Yogi Berra would say: It's deja vu all over again!
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Old 02-05-2010, 05:00 AM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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As Eisenhower would be equally embarassed seeing what the GOP has degraded to.

Ike warned us about the influence of the military-industrial complex, instead of avoiding it both parties sold their collective souls to it, much to the detriment of the country.
excellent excellent excellent point!!!! I love this picture

Social Security Online History Pages

look at the spry old feller and the lovely lady to LBJ's left.

It's unfortunate how the media has taken over politics. Can you imagine if there was such a thing as Fox news back in harry's day??? Roger Ailes wouldn't get any sleep.
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Old 02-05-2010, 08:26 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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I only consider Coolidge to be a truly great president in the past century.
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