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I can't help but think when primitive man first invented the wheel there were conservatives around saying; "No. That thing will never work.", "The gods are against this evil thing.", "We've never had these things before, why do we need them now?, "You better not expect me to support this!"
Great analogy.
They sat there on the sidelines, not helping, only criticizing and complaining and throwing rocks and bones at those who were trying to move the tribe forward.
But they didnt have a problem with using the wheel once it was created!
Why aren't today's Conservative Republicans bragging about Pres. Eisenhower's Administration instead of Reagan's? They even balanced the budget for a while. Could it be because "Ike" was a liberal like Obama. They seem to have the same philosophy of helping all of the people, rich and poor and spending government tax money to put people to work improving America's infrastructure. Eisenhower's Interstate Highway program brought the most prosperous decade in the 20th Century.
If both parties will cooperate and get behind Obama's ideas for developing alternative energy right away the U.S. might be able to give China a run for leadership in the 21st Century. New industry might replace the ones Wall Street wheeler-dealers have moved to foreign countries to yield more profit from slave labor.
There is nothing wrong with being liberal, in much the same way there is nothing wrong with being a schizophrenic. Much as I look upon someone with a similar mental health disorder, I feel pity for the affliction, rather than derision. The big difference is that schizophrenics do not try to impose thier thought disorders upon me and affect my life, while liberals do.
-Segregation of the military and in fact the entire civil service
-Prohibition of alcohol
-Eugenics programs that forcibly sterilized people (Vermont's legislature right now is debating an apology over that, though it was not at all the only state)
-the federal reserve (gave banks control of our money).
-the income tax
-involvement in WWI
-got us entangled in Middle East affairs
-put us on a course of imperialism (seizing of Hawaii among other places).
Personally, I think we'd have been better off without such "reform"...
Why aren't today's Conservative Republicans bragging about Pres. Eisenhower's Administration instead of Reagan's? They even balanced the budget for a while. Could it be because "Ike" was a liberal like Obama. They seem to have the same philosophy of helping all of the people, rich and poor and spending government tax money to put people to work improving America's infrastructure. Eisenhower's Interstate Highway program brought the most prosperous decade in the 20th Century.
If both parties will cooperate and get behind Obama's ideas for developing alternative energy right away the U.S. might be able to give China a run for leadership in the 21st Century. New industry might replace the ones Wall Street wheeler-dealers have moved to foreign countries to yield more profit from slave labor.
Ike was no liberal.
Personally, I consider Coolidge the best president we had in the past century...
American industry won't be competitive until we end free trade. Americans can't compete with near-slave labor (or indeed, actual slave labor). O is an advocate of free trade as are many liberal politicians (Clinton gave us NAFTA, Bush hurt us more...).
There's obviously nothing wrong with being liberal, or conservative for that matter. However there are a lot of Americans that have fallen for the demonizing propaganda spewed everday in conservative media. Their premise is that we are always right and liberals are always wrong, for whatever reason. For some, they listen to the hate everyday and it consumes them. For others, they take the propaganda with a grain of salt and have the ability to think for themselves.
What I'd like to know is how many conservatives here are at a point where they will not even talk to their neighbors, relatives, or co-workers because they are on the left side of the political spectrum.
Opposed many of the progressive era reforms
Opposed the New Deal and Social Security
Opposed Medicare and Medicaid
Opposed Civil Rights for Blacks and other minorities
This thread isn't about Republicans per se. It's about conservatives. Conservatism, as a philosophy, is always wary of change or reform. It stands to reason then that today's conservatives--if they lived in a different time--likely would have opposed all of the things that Clark and I listed.
True conservatives would not have supported stealing money from the people for unconstitutional activities. Why? Because it's un-American to do so. That's why we fought the revolutionary war, to free ourselves from such thievery.
Roosevelt was a socialist/communist, and his new deal was the first step in a race to the bottom.
The fact is, that for every dollar taken from the American people for all of those wonderful progressive era causes ... 90% of it is stolen by the gangsters at the Federal Reserve, and the self serving congress critters, who, by the way, have an entirely different retirement and insurance plan, just for them. Those progressive causes just gave them new vehicles to steal that money right out of your paycheck before you even see it or prevent it.
Originally posted by pghquest
Where did you get your education from? MLK was a Republican and Lincoln FREED the slaves and there still is a Democrat in Congress that was a KKK member..
Did you read my post? I said conservative not Republican.
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