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Old 02-07-2010, 10:49 PM
 
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We had eight years of Bush and Cheney. Now you get mad !

You didn't get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and
appointed a President..

You didn't get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate energy policy.

You didn't get mad when a covert CIA operative got ousted.

You didn't get mad when the Patriot Act got passed.

You didn't get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us.

You didn't get mad when we spent over 600 billion(and counting) on said
illegal war.

You didn't get mad when over 10 billion dollars just disappeared in Iraq .

You didn't get mad when you found out we were torturing people.

You didn't get mad when the government was illegally wiretapping Americans.

You didn't get mad when we didn't catch Bin Laden.

You didn't get mad when you saw the horrible conditions at Walter Reed.

You didn't get mad when we let a major US city drown.

You didn't get mad when we gave a 900 billion tax break to the rich.

You didn't get mad when the deficit hit the trillion dollar mark.

You finally got mad when the government decided that people in America
deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick. Yes, illegal wars, lies,
corruption, torture, stealing your tax dollars to make the rich richer, are all
okay with you, but helping other Americans... oh hell no.
Half of your stuff is radical left wing propaganda, the other half is all supposition. Many of us conservatives disliked the way Bush ran this country and were quite vocal about it. Your argument seems to be, "yeah, Obama sucks, but since you didn't complain loud enough about Bush sucking, you can't say that Obama sucks." Kinda convoluted logic. Bottom line, this current administration is running up massive deficits that we can not repay. You can not spend your way out of debt; that's like driving your empty car until it's full.
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Old 02-07-2010, 10:49 PM
 
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Most of what you posted involves egregious spending.

How do you correlate these things to the current healthcare bill, which WILL result in massive spending, tax increases, and a massive boon for insurance companies?

Tell me how mad you are at this particular reality, and then we'll have a rational discussion.

Until then, this is nothing but "me, me, me" entitlement crap and obvious class envy.


900 billion is not massive spending? The cost of the war is not massive? Do you only care about money? Not rights or morals?
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Old 02-07-2010, 10:52 PM
 
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900 billion is not massive spending? The cost of the war is not massive? Do you only care about money? Not rights or morals?
Those are quite subjective, spending money that one does not have is objective.
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Old 02-07-2010, 10:53 PM
 
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900 billion is not massive spending? The cost of the war is not massive? Do you only care about money? Not rights or morals?
I don't think you understood my post.
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Old 02-07-2010, 10:58 PM
 
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Yes & all this egregious spending is ridiculous like you say, yet it's considered "for the good of the country" & yet healthcare is not. Don't you see that these same people who cry about this war spending have a problem w/spending this money on their own fellow citizens in this very own country who are without healthcare? Don't you think that is the epitome of elitist?
Liberal talking points have gone straight to your head. What would make you think that conservatives don't want healthcare reform? You'll never get a straight answer until you can get past the simple things that obviously aren't getting through to you.
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Old 02-07-2010, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Y-Town Area
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I don't think you understood my post.
I think your posts were understood to be just what they are...ignorant
drool. You are not making any sense. You are not even on topic.
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Old 02-07-2010, 11:02 PM
 
Location: just here
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Liberal talking points have gone straight to your head. What would make you think that conservatives don't want healthcare reform? You'll never get a straight answer until you can get past the simple things that obviously aren't getting through to you.
Ooookay, well I'm glad I had this discussion w/you. I'm sorry, but if you want to accuse me of having others "think" for me, then I will do the same of you & all of your consorts. Sounds stupid, doesn't it? I've been on this forum for a couple months & I've seen all I need to see to know how conservatives think about healthcare reform. It ain't pretty & actually, it's pretty fricking disgusting the things that I've read on here. Granted, this forum is not the end all to be all of what people in this country think, however I'm completely turned off but what I've read on here. You can call it what you like...I call it as I see it....or read it.
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Old 02-07-2010, 11:02 PM
 
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I think your posts were understood to be just what they are...ignorant
drool. You are not making any sense. You are not even on topic.
You can not send your way out of debt. This administration has massively increased our deficit. It really is that simple.
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Old 02-07-2010, 11:04 PM
 
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Ooookay, well I'm glad I had this discussion w/you. I'm sorry, but if you want to accuse me of having others "think" for me, then I will do the same of you & all of your consorts. Sounds stupid, doesn't it? I've been on this forum for a couple months & I've seen all I need to see to know how conservatives think about healthcare reform. It ain't pretty & actually, it's pretty fricking disgusting the things that I've read on here. Granted, this forum is not the end all to be all of what people in this country think, however I'm completely turned off but what I've read on here. You can call it what you like...I call it as I see it....or read it.
That's precisely the problem. Whether you got it here or from MSM or Olbermann himself, someone somewhere has programmed you to think that us conservatives don't want healthcare reform, which couldn't be further from the truth.

That just gets in your crawl doesn't it?
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Old 02-07-2010, 11:06 PM
 
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Ooookay, well I'm glad I had this discussion w/you. I'm sorry, but if you want to accuse me of having others "think" for me, then I will do the same of you & all of your consorts. Sounds stupid, doesn't it? I've been on this forum for a couple months & I've seen all I need to see to know how conservatives think about healthcare reform. It ain't pretty & actually, it's pretty fricking disgusting the things that I've read on here. Granted, this forum is not the end all to be all of what people in this country think, however I'm completely turned off but what I've read on here. You can call it what you like...I call it as I see it....or read it.
I can't speak for all conservatives, but this conservative wants healthcare reform, I want tort reform and the ability to shop across state lines for health insurance, to begin with. I, like the overwhelming majority of Americans, do not want the government to run my health care, by increasing our debt even more and still leaving over 12 million people uninsured. The government has never been, nor ever will be your savior.
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