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Old 07-29-2010, 05:48 PM
 
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oh please, when you tax something, you get less of it, and thus tax revenues go down.



a 1/2 pound burger? really? is that all? come on rookie, add to that another 1/2lb patty, two thick slices of cheese, and a 1/2 pound of bacon. put that between two grilled cheese sandwiches and call it a meal.
It's a meal. Now what?

 
Old 07-30-2010, 12:37 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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It's a meal. Now what?
Now you go to the fitness club and work out. Keeps the club in business, keeps the burger joints in business, and keeps the doctors in business.
 
Old 07-31-2010, 12:39 PM
 
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Man, farming has much more societal value than the machinations of rich, spoiled, gambling addicts who have no clue about responsibility and long term thinking.

"Alemany Farm is a four acre organic paradise amidst the urban sprawl of one of San Francisco's worst crime areas. Executive Director Alice Carruthers says her vision with the non-profit "was to slow the crime down." Since the farm began in 1991, families have been able to put fresh organic food on their tables and find a safe haven from the hostile environment where their children play and learn about the environment."
 
Old 07-31-2010, 12:50 PM
 
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It's a meal. Now what?
You start to order the single cheeseburger, instead of the double. They stop going out to eat, reducing the number of employees. They stop having money to go to amusement parks, cant afford a new car.. If I'm spending it on x, I cant spend it on Y..
 
Old 07-31-2010, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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That was George W. Bush sending "tax cuts" to the wealthy and the bill for the money borrowed to pay for them to the working class.

Was that "redistribution of wealth" OK with you?
Bush cut taxes for EVERYONE, not just the so called "rich". How is people keeping the money they earned "redistribution of wealth"? You liberals have a truly bizarre view of the world. Now Obama wanting to raise taxes on some and give entitlements to others, that is redistribution of wealth from those who earned to those who didn't.
 
Old 07-31-2010, 01:00 PM
 
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Bush cut taxes for EVERYONE, not just the so called "rich". How is people keeping the money they earned "redistribution of wealth"? You liberals have a truly bizarre view of the world. Now Obama wanting to raise taxes on some and give entitlements to others, that is redistribution of wealth from those who earned to those who didn't.
I'm willing to bet that many of these individuals started receiving checks due to the Bush tax cuts..
 
Old 08-04-2010, 06:04 PM
 
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The battle over Big Agra is about to begin!!

"The large, industrial growers of corn floated a trial balloon recently (July 20) in an attempt to justify continued taxpayer subsidies that have totaled $73.8 billion since 1995 for the ubiquitous crop. What stirred them up was that even hard-core subsidy defenders in Congress have begun talking about the need to give commodity subsidies a haircut in light of the worsening federal deficit. (The fact that 74 percent of the payments by the US Department of Agriculture go to the largest and wealthiest 10 percent of farm operations makes continuing the lavish subsidies even harder to justify.)

The real problem is that we're subsidizing unhealthy calories in commodity food products, making it a lot harder to do something about the simultaneous obesity and hunger epidemics. Does it make sense to underwrite the raw material costs for McDonald's and other fast-food chains to inject processed corn into nearly every menu item?

The corn growers refuse to confront the real toll of the unhealthy calories they produce. Instead they try to change the subject and veer off into scary tales of apocalypse should the subsidy spigot ever be turned off."
 
Old 08-05-2010, 10:36 AM
 
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The battle over Big Agra is about to begin!!

"The large, industrial growers of corn floated a trial balloon recently (July 20) in an attempt to justify continued taxpayer subsidies that have totaled $73.8 billion since 1995 for the ubiquitous crop. What stirred them up was that even hard-core subsidy defenders in Congress have begun talking about the need to give commodity subsidies a haircut in light of the worsening federal deficit. (The fact that 74 percent of the payments by the US Department of Agriculture go to the largest and wealthiest 10 percent of farm operations makes continuing the lavish subsidies even harder to justify.)

The real problem is that we're subsidizing unhealthy calories in commodity food products, making it a lot harder to do something about the simultaneous obesity and hunger epidemics. Does it make sense to underwrite the raw material costs for McDonald's and other fast-food chains to inject processed corn into nearly every menu item?

The corn growers refuse to confront the real toll of the unhealthy calories they produce. Instead they try to change the subject and veer off into scary tales of apocalypse should the subsidy spigot ever be turned off."
Finally! The food/agriculture industry is highly corrupt and completely backwards from health and fiscal responsibility. It's about time change is being considered.
 
Old 08-12-2010, 11:16 AM
 
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Finally! The food/agriculture industry is highly corrupt and completely backwards from health and fiscal responsibility. It's about time change is being considered.
Here is some Agra news, you might be interested in.

"How does the state of our agriculture today compare to 20 years ago? How similar are our farming and health care issues? Can they even be separated? Recently, I had the opportunity to sit down with Chuck Benbrook, Ph.D., chief scientist at The Organic Center, to discuss the findings in a provocative new report (http://www.organic-center.org/reportfiles/3075_Final.pdf - broken link). "
 
Old 08-18-2010, 02:36 PM
 
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Could this be the future of agra (http://inhabitat.com/2010/08/17/skycraper-farm-recycles-garbage-into-edible-crops/ - broken link)?

"Using trash to grow food isn't a new practice - composting, anyone? But Cypriot architect Luke Clayden's massive vertical bio-recycling plant brings the idea to a new level. Called the Bio-Diversity Project, the concept is to collect biodegradable post-consumer packaging (a.k.a. trash) that has been pre-laced with seeds, and "harvest" it in a skyscraper farm (http://inhabitat.com/2007/04/05/skyscraper-farming-farming-reaches-to-the-sky/ - broken link), where it can be sown into trees and edible crops."
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