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Have you ever read 1984? One of the tricks that they employed was to run the opposition party themselves. Now saying something that is patently false will undermine your credibility. Saying that building one and two were drought down by controlled demolition is patently false. Drop this and your credibility will go way up.
Yes I have. And one of the other, more famous tricks is to convince people that ignorance equalled strength ... that slavery equalled freedom. Then, there was the daily activities of rewriting the news and republishing on a daily basis to show how Big Brother was ALWAYS right, and you could AWALYS trust what big brother told you.
As for my credibility ... in who's eyes are you referring ... you? I don't seek nor do I need your endorsement or validation. And the only thing that is patently false is that plane damage and resulting fires disintegrated 70 and 90 floors of structural steel and concrete, causing those buildings to drop at free fall speed.
That, Winston, is seeing 5 fingers, when there are only 4.
Thank-you for posting the Patriot Act information. I was just wondering--there has been alot of information presented here. Just wanted to know how quick this came into play after 9-11. In order to look at the whole picture myself, I felt this was important to know.
I believe the evidence, not the people, and I've taken considerable time...
Ok, then why say this:
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Originally Posted by GuyNTexas
You can ask yourself why all of the firefighters talk about bombs going off ... you can ask why all of the cops are talking about secondary devices found ... cops ... rescue workers ... reporters ... average Joes on the street ... all of them hallucinating? All of them conspiracy theorists making it up on the spot, while the events are unfolding?
You believe the evidence, right? Not the people? Then why use them as evidence to support your theory?
If you're going to do that - which you did - then you have to also address those that were also there, and are also cops, firefighters, average Joes, etc., and don't support your theory. You can't have it both ways, and this is all I've been asking of you and ergo all along.
Neither of you have given a direct answer to such a simple question...
You believe the evidence, right? Not the people? Then why use them as evidence to support your theory?
If you're going to do that - which you did - then you have to also address those that were also there, and are also cops, firefighters, average Joes, etc., and don't support your theory. You can't have it both ways, and this is all I've been asking of you and ergo all along.
Neither of you have given a direct answer to such a simple question...
I love all the "shoo fly" crap that ergo keeps posting. Any time anybody posts something that he's incapable of addressing, he posts some "shoo fly" nonsense. Every time he does it, he weakens his position, and that of those supporting the same theory.
And the only thing that is patently false is that plane damage and resulting fires disintegrated 70 and 90 floors of structural steel and concrete, causing those buildings to drop at free fall speed.
What I see when I watch this video is The outer steal columns buckling inwards. This starts about at 11 seconds in. The buckling happens at the point of fire and impact damage. The outer shell of the upper part of the building is sliding down inside of the outer shell of the lower part of the building. This looks to me like a piston inside of a cylinder. Where would the air inside of the cylinder go? Out the windows? What I see is the distance between the point of impact and the roof getting shorter as the collapse progresses.
Have you ever stood on a pop can that was empty and touched the sides? How much does the pop can slow your fall?
The collapse progresses up the top part of the building even as the top part moves down. Just like a pop can write large.
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