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so what do you think, i have personally seen on news channels local news about stimulus saving or adding some jobs it cant save all of them
Pretty clear that it saved hundreds of thousands of teaching jobs...
Oh, and the governator came out and said that the stimulus has helped California, but I'm not going to attempt to put Arnie up there as an "economic expert".....
There's jobs out there? With an UE rate of 9.7% you tell me where these jobs are. You have no idea what field this man is in or what his specialty is. Maybe he's in a highly specialized field.
My point stands, the employment outlook under Obama is far worse than it was under Bush.
yes. point taken. Nobody can deny that UE is high right now. I don't even think that 9.7 is accurate. but to go 5 years without finding A job (as the poster suggested) seems to be a stretch. the poster's son was unemployed 4 years in bush's term and 1 year in obama's. does the poster blame bush at all? I do believe that the President is doing all that he can, but he was dealt a bad hand. the f**kups of the bush admin cannot be undone overnight.
Pretty clear that it saved hundreds of thousands of teaching jobs...
Oh, and the governator came out and said that the stimulus has helped California, but I'm not going to attempt to put Arnie up there as an "economic expert".....
It only delays the inevitable while further putting our country in debt.
What happens when the stimulus funds run out? Will those hundreds of thousands of teaching jobs be eliminated then? States are broke for the most part.
It only delays the inevitable while further putting our country in debt.
What happens when the stimulus funds run out? Will those hundreds of thousands of teaching jobs be eliminated then? States are broke for the most part.
I actually agree with you here. I am in the group that thinks the stimulus has simply put off our ultimate economic judgement for the unchecked excesses that occured primarily in real estate during the Bush Administration (not BLAMING Bush for them necessarily, it's just when it occured)...
As I've always said, I think it MAY have been worthwhile to try to prop everything up while waiting on a recovery. We'll see. I'm just not in the camp wanting to crucify Obama before we KNOW for sure that the stimulus, in actuality, did nothing but delay the inevitable...
If the stimulus ends and the recovery isn't strong enough? Yeah, right back into the crapper with $787 Billion more in debt than we would have had if we'd just accepted our fate....
I actually agree with you here. I am in the group that thinks the stimulus has simply put off our ultimate economic judgement for the unchecked excesses that occured primarily in real estate during the Bush Administration (not BLAMING Bush for them necessarily, it's just when it occured)...
As I've always said, I think it MAY have been worthwhile to try to prop everything up while waiting on a recovery. We'll see. I'm just not in the camp wanting to crucify Obama before we KNOW for sure that the stimulus, in actuality, did nothing but delay the inevitable...
If the stimulus ends and the recovery isn't strong enough? Yeah, right back into the crapper with $787 Billion more in debt than we would have had if we'd just accepted our fate....
Props to you for admitting that you agree with my statement.
I thnik it has saved jobs and created some;but not enough to be worth the money spent. Its also is hard to define as so many were just shift from state and local payrolls plus they treat a one day job the same as even 6 months. I also don't see the massive infrastructure improvements promised. But as long as Democrats say its successful I say let them say so because it elimnates the need for a jobs bill or additional stimulus i tehir own words of sucessful.In the future many relying on entitlements will see what the cost really is.
so what do you think, i have personally seen on news channels local news about stimulus saving or adding some jobs it cant save all of them
Of course you've seen the news channel reporting that jobs were saved, its data being fed to them by the administration. There isnt one bit of proof that jobs were saved..
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Pretty clear that it saved hundreds of thousands of teaching jobs...
Ahh nope.. hundreds of thousands of teaching jobs were never going to be lost.. Just funded differently.
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Originally Posted by Rhett_Butler
Oh, and the governator came out and said that the stimulus has helped California, but I'm not going to attempt to put Arnie up there as an "economic expert".....
Of course sending money to the states helped the states.. Thats not the question, the question is, did it create jobs. Sending money to the states to allow them a cushion to balance their budget does not create jobs, it lowers the amount of cuts the states need to make for things like "welfare", which actually counter jobs...
Ahh nope.. hundreds of thousands of teaching jobs were never going to be lost.. Just funded differently.
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I work in education. I'd love to see your link to this claim.
Teaching jobs were on the block and some WERE cut anyway. At least in my state, I'd heard NOTHING of "funding teacher jobs differently"...
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