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Old 03-23-2010, 10:40 AM
 
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The American public got it right last year when they said an a loud and emphatic "No" to McCain and his ludicrous running mate. Whose well being did the Republicans have in mind when they never gave a thought to helping the average American obtain affordable health coverage? Maybe it was the health insurance lobbyists that they had in mind because it certainly was not their constituency. Republicans are adults? Adult what? As of late they are showing their true colors as cold blooded reptiles.
The cult of Beck are acting like spoiled brats.

The health care bill is firmly in the Republican tradition from Eisenhower to Romney but the lunatics will say no just out of spite anyway.

 
Old 03-23-2010, 11:34 AM
 
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The pre-1994 GOP (http://www.gop.com/index.php/learn/accomplishment/ - broken link) had quite an impressive record of publicly funded domestic infrastructure achievements, diplomacy, and governmental support of social equity policies.

Now it is being lead de facto by disc jockeys and other media pundits along with the various interest groups that sponsor them.

I think I have dug up from whence this change first began.

I found this article very enlightening on how far the GOP has strayed from its roots.

I hope everyone else does too.
What part of deficit do you not understand?
 
Old 03-23-2010, 11:58 AM
 
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What part of deficit do you not understand?
You should have put that to Reagan.

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The trend toward increasing the debt began under Reagan.
And to Junior.

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Watch this video.

It was under Junior and the GOP Congress that fiscal responsibility was tossed out the window, and irresponsibility was became the name of the game.
But there is something I don't understand.

What kind of Beckian logic is used to justify building infrastructure in nations whose people suicide bomb but any thought, any mention of building our nation is greeted with rage fueled shouts of socialism and nazi?

Please translate for those of us that are not denizens of the Rupertverse.
 
Old 03-26-2010, 02:53 PM
 
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The party has been hijacked and true conservatives are getting the shaft.

"He asked if I had noticed any comments by AEI "scholars" on the subject of health care reform. I said no and he said that was because they had been ordered not to speak to the media because they agreed with too much of what Obama was trying to do.

Sadly, there is no place for David and me to go. The donor community is only interested in financing organizations that parrot the party line, such as the one recently established by McCain economic adviser Doug Holtz-Eakin."


This is why it is disrespectful to guys like Bruce to call the lunatic fringe cult of Beck: "conservatives, Republicans, GOPers".

The looney tunes sully those names.
 
Old 03-26-2010, 03:20 PM
 
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looking at the bills passed so far with Obama it is evident that the democratic party is the party of the credit cad. they want to run up the debt ansd shift cost to everyone but themselves. If they had really wanted healthcare the groups within would have fought to keep the cost out of their pockets. They are the party of give me something free.They are even willing to put their children's future in debt for what they want.
 
Old 04-18-2010, 03:18 PM
 
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Another blatant example (http://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/?article=1232 - broken link) of the hijacking and distortions that have so badly damaged the once great name of conservatism.

"Interestingly, the very namesake of the Cato Institute, “Cato’s Letters” (a series of essays published by John Trenchard and Thomas Gordon in British newspapers between 1720 and 1723) had already formulated the basic argument fifty years earlier. As “Cato’s Letter #3" (by Gordon) declared in 1720:
A free people are kept so, by no other means than an equal distribution of property; every man, who has a share of property, having a proportionable share of power; and the first seeds of anarchy (which, for the most part, ends in tyranny) are produced from hence, that some are ungovernably rich, and many more are miserably poor; that is, some are masters of all means of oppression, and others want all the means of self-defence."
 
Old 08-29-2010, 04:19 PM
 
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The Republicans have been driven to hiding or extinction.

Long live the party of no!!

"The self-described “fiscal conservatives” really cannot be taken seriously – in the financial reform debate, they either didn’t show up or preferred to keep the existing system in place, and they refuse to put serious health cost-control measures on the table.

If the “conservatives” don’t really want to reduce the shocks that have caused government debt to explode recently – or to deal with the underlying, longstanding health-care cost issues in a reasonable fashion – what exactly is going on?

That’s a question they should answer for themselves, and hopefully they will be pressed on this in public debates during the run-up to November’s elections. But there is a striking similarity between the longstanding stated intention to “starve the beast” (meaning press for reduction in government by creating binding constraints, like a perceived crisis) and what we are seeing play out today."
 
Old 08-29-2010, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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Yes indeed the Genesis of the party of no. They seem to have that invisible touch
Not one person got the reference
 
Old 08-29-2010, 05:21 PM
 
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Great discussion on how true conservatism has died and been hijacked by the cult of Beck.

Interesting.....which political office does Beck hold?
 
Old 09-01-2010, 11:33 AM
 
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Interesting.....which political office does Beck hold?
Depends how many of his tea baggin' cult worshippers get elected.

They all have a hive mind, y'know.

Here's a lot more that you also probably don't know about:

"There are two Republicans. Abraham Lincoln symbolizes America's commitment to equal opportunity and liberty for all. And there is Theodore Roosevelt -- the Republican President who more than any other embodied our commitment to conserve and protect our natural environment and prevent its destruction for short-term commercial profit.

Roosevelt not only championed setting aside National Parks and other protected areas similar to the one we were about to visit. He also took on - and broke up - the "Trusts" -- the giant corporate semi-monopolies that dominated America's economy as it entered the 20th Century.

For decades now, the Party of Lincoln has transformed itself into the Party of Strom Thurmond and Jim DeMint. But the Republican abandonment of the values of Theodore Roosevelt is just as remarkable. The gulf between the vision of Teddy Roosevelt and the Party of "drill baby drill" is as vast as the Grand Canyon. "
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